Comments on: The X-Axis – 7 February 2010 http://www.housetoastonish.com/?p=218 Some talking and writing about funny-coloured bits of paper Sat, 04 Sep 2010 23:24:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Jerry Ray http://www.housetoastonish.com/?p=218&cpage=2#comment-2181 Jerry Ray Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:47:18 +0000 http://www.housetoastonish.com/?p=218#comment-2181 >>Incidentally, the fact that we have a bunch of veteran comic book readers here who can’t figure out what the hell is going on in this story probably isn’t a good sign. Just how incoherent has the storytelling been here?<< If you want to talk incoherence, we really need to be talking about the Hulk books in general, and _Fall of the Hulks_ in particular. God almighty, I have no idea what's supposed to be going on in that storyline, and Marvel can't even be bothered to publish the books in order. >>Incidentally, the fact that we have a bunch of veteran comic book readers here who can’t figure out what the hell is going on in this story probably isn’t a good sign. Just how incoherent has the storytelling been here?<<

If you want to talk incoherence, we really need to be talking about the Hulk books in general, and _Fall of the Hulks_ in particular. God almighty, I have no idea what's supposed to be going on in that storyline, and Marvel can't even be bothered to publish the books in order.

]]> By: Michael Aronson http://www.housetoastonish.com/?p=218&cpage=2#comment-2177 Michael Aronson Wed, 10 Feb 2010 04:35:13 +0000 http://www.housetoastonish.com/?p=218#comment-2177 "Driving him mad is part of it, I meant more that the reason he’s attacking Asgard is that Loki has completely subverted his cause away from him without him realising. The master manipulator turns out to be just a pawn. It would be interesting to see the exact point where he realises this, and what his reaction is." Osborne: Gah! I can't believe I was tricked by Loki, the trickster god, whose entire reason for being is to lie and deceive people! “Driving him mad is part of it, I meant more that the reason he’s attacking Asgard is that Loki has completely subverted his cause away from him without him realising. The master manipulator turns out to be just a pawn. It would be interesting to see the exact point where he realises this, and what his reaction is.”

Osborne: Gah! I can’t believe I was tricked by Loki, the trickster god, whose entire reason for being is to lie and deceive people!

]]> By: Valhallahan http://www.housetoastonish.com/?p=218&cpage=2#comment-2175 Valhallahan Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:55:12 +0000 http://www.housetoastonish.com/?p=218#comment-2175 I wish they'd do the Thor thing with Wolverine. Also, I have absolutely zero interest in Barry Allen. Wally West is my Flash, probably because I don't read the books, but loved the animated Justice League series. I wish they’d do the Thor thing with Wolverine.

Also, I have absolutely zero interest in Barry Allen. Wally West is my Flash, probably because I don’t read the books, but loved the animated Justice League series.

]]> By: Si http://www.housetoastonish.com/?p=218&cpage=2#comment-2174 Si Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:50:10 +0000 http://www.housetoastonish.com/?p=218#comment-2174 "And Si, Loki driving Osborn mad appears to be the point of the last scene of Dark Avengers #12." Driving him mad is part of it, I meant more that the reason he's attacking Asgard is that Loki has completely subverted his cause away from him without him realising. The master manipulator turns out to be just a pawn. It would be interesting to see the exact point where he realises this, and what his reaction is. “And Si, Loki driving Osborn mad appears to be the point of the last scene of Dark Avengers #12.”

Driving him mad is part of it, I meant more that the reason he’s attacking Asgard is that Loki has completely subverted his cause away from him without him realising. The master manipulator turns out to be just a pawn. It would be interesting to see the exact point where he realises this, and what his reaction is.

]]> By: Omar Karindu http://www.housetoastonish.com/?p=218&cpage=2#comment-2169 Omar Karindu Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:01:38 +0000 http://www.housetoastonish.com/?p=218#comment-2169 After the first Crisis back in the 1980s, they did plan to create an all-new, light-powered hero called the Flash with no links to the earlier ones. DC execs vetoes it in favor of Wally West's title, which is to this day the most consistently good Flash title ever published. After the first Crisis back in the 1980s, they did plan to create an all-new, light-powered hero called the Flash with no links to the earlier ones. DC execs vetoes it in favor of Wally West’s title, which is to this day the most consistently good Flash title ever published.

]]> By: Martin S Smith http://www.housetoastonish.com/?p=218&cpage=2#comment-2168 Martin S Smith Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:24:56 +0000 http://www.housetoastonish.com/?p=218#comment-2168 I think they should at least ditch the attempts to say the Flash's powers are based in (pseudo-)science and just come out and call them magic. That's always been my problem with solo Flash stories - the writers bending over backwards to justify all the cool stuff a super-speedster can do when it'd work just as well if they said 'it's magic'. I think they should at least ditch the attempts to say the Flash’s powers are based in (pseudo-)science and just come out and call them magic. That’s always been my problem with solo Flash stories – the writers bending over backwards to justify all the cool stuff a super-speedster can do when it’d work just as well if they said ‘it’s magic’.

]]> By: Matthew Craig http://www.housetoastonish.com/?p=218&cpage=2#comment-2166 Matthew Craig Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:37:53 +0000 http://www.housetoastonish.com/?p=218#comment-2166 <i>do you think the Flash concept as a whole should have been ditched?</i> They should have had the guts to reinvent the character again, like they did in the '60s, like they sort of did in the '80's, and like they almost did with The Green Lantern in the '90's and some of the Seven Soldiers concepts in the '00's. But...you know..."legacy." //\Oo/\\ do you think the Flash concept as a whole should have been ditched?

They should have had the guts to reinvent the character again, like they did in the ’60s, like they sort of did in the ’80′s, and like they almost did with The Green Lantern in the ’90′s and some of the Seven Soldiers concepts in the ’00′s.

But…you know…”legacy.”

//\Oo/\\

]]> By: Omar Karindu http://www.housetoastonish.com/?p=218&cpage=2#comment-2165 Omar Karindu Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:08:53 +0000 http://www.housetoastonish.com/?p=218#comment-2165 Of course, the Daredevil plotline has the slight logical problem that a federal official has, essentially, zero sway over local courts and police. They're two entirely different systems, and local judges are generally elected, not appointed. Of course, the Daredevil plotline has the slight logical problem that a federal official has, essentially, zero sway over local courts and police. They’re two entirely different systems, and local judges are generally elected, not appointed.

]]> By: Taibak http://www.housetoastonish.com/?p=218&cpage=2#comment-2164 Taibak Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:02:22 +0000 http://www.housetoastonish.com/?p=218#comment-2164 Andrew: Those are very different situations though. Barry Allen was dead, but that just meant Wally West was the Flash. Plus, there was Kid Flash, Jesse Quick, and Jay Garrett. Why would you need to add another fix? Plus, as you said, Barry was dead for 22 years. How many fans were even reading when DC killed him off? On the other hand, Thor was only off the air, so to speak, for three years, during which time there were no other Thors in the Marvel Universe. Plus Marvel kept saying that Thor would be back soonish which had the (probably accidental) effect of helping build anticipation for the relaunch. Andrew: Those are very different situations though. Barry Allen was dead, but that just meant Wally West was the Flash. Plus, there was Kid Flash, Jesse Quick, and Jay Garrett. Why would you need to add another fix? Plus, as you said, Barry was dead for 22 years. How many fans were even reading when DC killed him off?

On the other hand, Thor was only off the air, so to speak, for three years, during which time there were no other Thors in the Marvel Universe. Plus Marvel kept saying that Thor would be back soonish which had the (probably accidental) effect of helping build anticipation for the relaunch.

]]> By: Mory Buckman http://www.housetoastonish.com/?p=218&cpage=1#comment-2159 Mory Buckman Tue, 09 Feb 2010 11:19:46 +0000 http://www.housetoastonish.com/?p=218#comment-2159 Si: I agree that Loki is making the mask talk. He's taking advantage of Osborn's instability by making Osborn think Loki's ideas are coming from his own head. Si:

I agree that Loki is making the mask talk. He’s taking advantage of Osborn’s instability by making Osborn think Loki’s ideas are coming from his own head.

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