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The Incomplete Wolverine, Part 3

Posted on Sunday, July 19, 2020 by Paul in Wolverine

Part 1 – Origin to Origin II
Part 2 – 1907 to 1914

We’ve reached World War I, which is… untapped territory, for the most part. Not entirely, though. Wolverine: Origins #17 tells us that Logan fought in World War I as part of Romulus’s “Devil’s Brigade”, some sort of black ops or mercenary squad who fought alongside the regular troops. Daniel Way seems to have picked this up from Alpha Flight vol 1 #33, where Wolverine mentions in passing his service with the Devil’s Brigade. In reality, the Devil’s Brigade was the nickname of the First Special Service Force, a US/Canadian commando unit that existed between 1942 and 1944 and is regarded as the forerunner of modern US and Canadian special operations forces. Maybe Daniel Way didn’t get the reference, or maybe he was suggesting that that unit was also part of Romulus’s conspiracy.

Flashbacks in WOLVERINE vol 3 #57-60
“Logan Dies, parts 1-4” by Marc Guggenheim & Howard Chaykin
November 2007 to February 2008

22 April 1915. Logan is fighting with (apparently regular) Canadian forces. At the Second Battle of Ypres, the Germans use chlorine gas for the first time. Everyone else dies, but Logan survives to see a mysterious figure with a sword. Being Logan, he promptly fights and kills the guy, who immediately reappears alive and well and says they will meet again. This is Lazaer, an angel of death. (Yes, it’s an anagram of “Azrael”.) The nagging sense that he has defied the order of nature leads Logan to fall into a depression, to the point where he attempts suicide – but evidently he comes to terms with it over time.

By the way, this is one of a number of stories where Logan uses some other sort of bladed weapon as improvised claws, seemingly unaware that he already has claws of his own. His pre-Weapon X flashbacks are all over the place about whether he uses his claws, or doesn’t know they exist, or what – you just have to chalk it up to his fluctuating mental state throughout this period, along with a lot of other hopelessly inconsistent behaviour, and it’s really not worth trying to track or make sense of.

Anyway, having beaten the angel of death in combat, Logan now gains the right to fight Lazaer every time he dies, and to return to life if he wins. This seems to have been intended to explain away Wolverine’s more absurd healing stunts, and also to draw a line under them (since the story brings the deal to an end). In practice, it had very little impact, whether on Logan’s back story or on the way writers used his healing factor.

SAVAGE WOLVERINE #21-22
“The Great War” by John Arcudi & Joe Quinones
July and August 2014

October 1918. Logan is still serving in the Canadian army in the front lines of World War I. His unit includes another mutant, a frail telepath called Lieutenant Bellamy, but nicknamed “Link”, who is proud to be fighting for his country, and resents Logan’s attempts to bond over their powers. Logan’s unit attack a bridge whose German defenders, led by Captain Egon Hiban, are mainly marking the days until the expected end of the war. Link, perhaps subconsciously, creates a mental link between Logan and Hiban, who nobly attempts to discharge his duty, and is mortally wounded for his troubles. Logan allows Hiban to die peacefully while listening to music he loves. Broadly, the point of all this is that Logan, Link and Hiban are all driven by their nature to play out their roles in a fight over a bridge that they all know to be objectively pointless given the imminent end of the war. It’s an unimportant story, but quite a good one.

An epilogue shows Logan at the Armistice Day celebrations in Paris (on 11 November 1918), still brooding over Hiban’s death.

And that’s it for World War I. Lots of untapped territory for writers there. Much the same goes for the 1920s…

Flashbacks in WOLVERINE vol 3 #62-65
“Get Mystique!” by Jason Aaron & Ron Garney
April to July 2008

Mexico, 1921. Logan is sentenced to death for stealing a horse, and is brought before a firing squad. He escapes alongside fellow prisoner Raven Darkhölme (not yet using the name “Mystique”, but not in disguise either), who may have engineered the meeting. Raven takes him to Kansas City, where she wants Logan to help her group of low-level scam merchants with a bank robbery. Logan shops them to the police, partly because he’s convinced she’ll stab him in the back eventually, and partly because he’s already fallen into the habit of keeping his distance from people who offer him family and stability. Raven escapes town on the same train, and offers to let bygones be bygones… before booting Logan off the moving train. There’s no mention of the Romulus storyline here, so from the look of it this is one of the periods where he’s largely outside Romulus’s influence.

The Marvel Index has Logan’s first meeting with Ogun in around 1921, but we’ll come back to that.

In around 1923, Logan spends some time in St Paul, Minnesota (according to Savage Wolverine #15). He befriends brothel owner Dolly, and eventually leaves “because [he] couldn’t settle down”.

SAVAGE WOLVERINE #20
“Valentine’s Day” by Frank Tieri & Felix Ruiz
June 2014

Chicago, 1929. It’s the Prohibition, and Logan is a bootlegger working for Bugs Moran. He appears to have a girlfriend, Molly Barker. After Logan gets into a fight with Al Capone’s men, Molly shows up dead. The killer turns out to be Victor Creed, who is working for Capone, but was acting on his own initiative. Creed lures Logan to a meeting where he and seven of Moran’s men are shot down (the St Valentine’s Day Massacre, in other words). Unusually, while Logan is healing, Creed takes the opportunity to give a mutant-supremacist speech, apparently wondering why his superiority – so obvious to him – isn’t actually translating into power and status beyond being a henchman. It’s a somewhat interesting take on Creed. For Logan, it’s more generic, but hey, if anyone wants to do 1920s gangster stories with Logan, the precedent is there.

Probably somewhere in the 1920s, Logan makes his first trip to Madripoor, the island principality with massive disparities of wealth. Some stories portray Madripoor as virtually lawless, but since it apparently supports a thriving business community and a wealthy population who would be unlikely to hang around in a state of total anarchy, we should probably take that as meaning that the authorities are heavily corrupt, and pay little attention to what’s going on in the poor parts of town. All we seem to know for sure about Logan’s first trip is that it predates 1932 (when he makes a return trip), and that it happened during his “freelancin’ days” (according to Wolverine: Origins Annual #1).

Savage Wolverine #12 has a flashback to South Africa in 1931, where Logan meets a herd of elephants. (It’s intended as an echo of the famous doe-stalking scene in X-Men vol 1 #109.) According to the following issue, this begins “an 80-year long history of annual visits to Africa and a friendship with a herd of elephants.” We surely can’t take this literally – there must be long stretches of Logan’s history where he doesn’t remember the elephants or simply can’t get there – but apparently he really does drop in on his elephants on a regular basis over the following decades.

Flashback in WOLVERINE vol 4 #10
“Wolverine’s Revenge!, part 1” by Jason Aaron, Renato Guedes & Jose Wilson Magalhaes
June 2011

Striking miners in Kentucky bring in Logan as a “special negotiator” to help with a brutal mine owner and his Pinkertons. When the mine owner drunkenly attacks the union rep, Logan kills him with a knife. The mine owner’s son sees the killing and is duly horrified. Logan warns the boy not to come for revenge when he grows up, because it’d suck him into a life he should want no part of. The boy will completely ignore this advice and become the leader of a Wolverine revenge organisation, the Red Right Hand. This is another thread which keeps popping up throughout Wolverine’s back story, thanks to a handful of Jason Aaron stories which have rarely been referenced anywhere else. (Those same stories establish that Logan has a large number of illegitimate children, but there are no further flashbacks expanding on the details.)

The flashback is placed “eighty years ago”, which at the time of publication meant 1931 – but the kid shown in this story needs to remain alive in the main story, so it’s probably been dragged forward a bit by sliding time. Historically, the reference is to the Harlan County War, which lasted for most of the 1930s.

WOLVERINE: THE AMAZING IMMORTAL MAN AND OTHER BLOODY TALES
“The Amazing Immortal Man” by David Lapham & Jose Villarrubia
May 2008

Somewhere in the 1930s (though it seems to think that Logan was still in wild-man mode in this timeframe). Logan is arrested in Tennessee for stealing chickens, and gets sold to a circus, where he winds up using his healing powers as a sideshow attraction. The circus uses him as a distraction to rob the towns they visit. Logan draws the line at endangering the lion-tamer’s pregnant wife Olga, but the rest of the circus doesn’t, and so the whole arrangement collapses in predictable chaos. Basically a random anthology story that has to get shoehorned into the timeline somewhere.

Flashbacks in WOLVERINE: ORIGINS ANNUAL #1
“Return to Madripoor” by Daniel Way & Kaare Andrews
July 2007

This expands on some teaser flashbacks from Wolverine vol 2 #126 (a Chris Claremont story from 1998). Returning to Madripoor, Logan hooks up with his old flame Seraph, who runs the Princess Bar. (Logan later becomes the owner, and it becomes a standard setting for his Madripoor stories in the late 80s.) Seraph works for Romulus, and she’s carrying on a relationship with Logan partly in order to train and steer him for her employer. On the other hand, she thinks that Logan doesn’t deserve what Romulus has planned for him, and feels guilty about manipulating him. Later, Seraph insists on tagging along when Logan goes on a mission with Viper (the details of which are not specified). The group encounter Victor Creed, who nearly kills Logan.

Viper gets Logan to safety while Seraph seemingly dies in a heroic last stand against Creed. However, she shows up alive and well in Wolverine: Origins #16, nearly a decade later, and also written by Daniel Way – so either she has some sort of healing powers of her own, or this is another staged event by Romulus. As Way repeatedly makes clear, Romulus’s plan to keep Logan under control includes killing off any woman that Logan gets too close to, in order to dehumanise him – but Romulus also repeatedly puts his own agents in that position, which makes rather more sense if it’s a scam, at least when they’re the ones involved.

Wolverine vol 3 #58 has a single-panel flashback to Logan fighting Lazaer following a life-threatening injury, wearing his Patch outfit. The Marvel Index treats that as referring to this story, and it’s as good a choice as any.

Flashback in WOLVERINE vol 2 #113
“The Wind from the East” by Larry Hama, Leinil Francis Yu & Edgar Tadeo
May 1997

Shanghai. Logan stops two Japanese soldiers from abusing a couple of locals who have stolen a box (which becomes the macguffin in the present day story). A captain summarily executes one of the soldiers for dishonourable conduct, and then invites Logan to study the martial arts at his dojo in Kanazawa. The older local man makes a competing offer, but Logan turns them both down for now. If you hadn’t guessed, the Japanese officer is Ogun, and this is Logan’s first meeting with him.

The story itself doesn’t give a precise date, but there are Japanese soldiers acting as if they have some form of authority in Shanghai. I’m not at all familiar with this part of history, but as I understand it, Shanghai came under Japanese control following the Battle of Shanghai in 1937. However, parts of the city were under de facto Japanese control from 1932. The Wolverine Index timeline has this flashback taking place in around 1920, but also wrongly describes it as happening in Japan.

This can go pretty much anywhere in the 1930s, as long as it leaves space for Logan to train with Ogun before World War II. (Technically, the evidence for the Ogun stint coming before World War II is that Logan is familiar with Japan in wartime stories. Since Wolverine: Exit Wounds has now established that Logan lived in Japan much earlier than that, it’s technically possible to suggest that Wolverine meets Ogun in Shanghai in the late 30s but doesn’t train with him until after the war – but that doesn’t seem to have been anyone’s intention, and Logan is doing vaguely samurai-type stuff in some of the wartime stories, which he presumably learns from Ogun.)

SAVAGE WOLVERINE #14-17
“Wrath” by Richard Isanove
January to April 2014

Logan is a bootlegger again, this time in Grand Rapids, Minnesota. A French gangster, Pierre-Anselme, kills Logan’s friend Elias, and abducts Elias’s daughter. Logan rescues her, maiming the face of Pierre’s partner Marion in the process. Logan sets off with Elias’s four children for South Dakota, where they have an uncle and aunt, but the vengeful gangsters are in pursuit. On the way, one of the kids is killed, and another dies of consumption, but Logan succeeds in delivering the other two to their new home. Unfortunately, he sets off again just before the gangsters arrive. Realising his mistake, he doubles back in time to save the kids, but the uncle dies. It’s rather slow paced, but it’s not a bad pulp storyline. It is, of course, an early sighting on our timeline for “Logan tries to save innocent young companions from being dragged into his bleak and inescapable life of violence”, which is one of the standard plots of Wolverine solo stories.

Flashbacks in WOLVERINE #314-317
“Covenant” by Cullen Bunn, Paul Pelletier & David Meikis
October to December 2012

1934. Logan seems to be some sort of freelance adventurer at this point. The secretive CovenantVanessa Baker, the Menace, Murderous Lion, Wyatt Crowley, Jefferson Chambers and Ulysses Bloodstone – hire him to break into a temple in Marrakech and kill the Dreaming Maiden, a woman whose dreams have strange effects on the real world. The Covenant are scared of her powers, but she persuades Logan to save her, and he helps her hide in a cave. He tells her that as long as she stops dreaming, he’ll eventually come back for her. Later, in 1935 Shanghai, Logan falsely reports back to the Covenant that he’s completed his mission. The Covenant offer him more assassination work, but he declines.

Somewhere around here, Logan apparently starts using “Wolverine” as a nickname, because he’s using it in…

X-MEN: TRUE FRIENDS #2-3
by Chris Claremont, Rick Leonardi, Al Williamson, Jimmy Palmiotti & Shannon Blanchard
October 1999

1936. Logan has reconciled with Raven Darkhölme, who is now also working with the precognitive Irene Adler (later Destiny). Presumably following Irene’s predictions, Logan shows up in Edinburgh to stop Nazi agents from killing aristocrat Alasdhair Kinross (Moira’s MacTaggert’s grandfather). Kinross and a time-travelling Shadowcat (Kitty Pryde) have uncovered a Nazi plot to destabilise the British monarchy on behalf of the Shadow King (an evil psychic entity who becomes a major villain towards the end of the 1980s). Logan also gets to meet fellow time traveller Phoenix (Rachel Summes) and… well, the future Queen, because it’s one of those stories. The Shadow King’s defeat somehow or other leads to Shadowcat and Phoenix being returned to their own time.

This story isn’t on Unlimited yet. Logan never shows any signs of recalling this meeting when Kitty or Rachel show up in Claremont’s present day stories, so presumably by the time he wrote True Friends, Claremont was on board with the idea that Logan had massive memory gaps.

According to Wolverine vol 2 #35-37, Logan then travels to the Spanish Civil War. He’s present at the bombing of Guernica (on 26 April 1937) and meets Eugene Judd (later Puck) and Ernest Hemingway. Although the storyline is set during this period, it depicts a time-travelling Wolverine and Puck temporarily displacing their counterparts – so we never actually see what the originals were up to at this point, except in a photograph.

Flashbacks in WOLVERINE ANNUAL #1 (2019)
“Acts of Evil” by Jody Houser & Geraldo Borges
September 2019

A classic example of the “I’m sure it’ll fit in Wolverine’s backstory somewhere” approach to continuity. Never mind all that Romulus, Madripoor, freelance investigation stuff – it’s 1938, and Logan moves to Hollywood with his girlfriend, aspiring actress Celia Stroud! She dumps him after six months, but he stays in Hollywood as a studio worker, unable to move on with his life. When Celia discovers his healing factor after an on-set accident, she introduces him to a group that she’s joined. Naturally, it’s a cult, through which Celia has made contact with Morgan Le Fey (of the present day, for some reason). Morgan possesses Celia, then sticks Logan in his Wolverine costume and makes him fight images of villains from his future. Apparently this is meant to provoke rage and pain that Morgan can feed on, but of course none of it means anything to Logan at this point in his life, so he just fights his way out and slashes Celia/Morgan. Morgan breaks the link, and Logan is shocked at hurting Celia, so he runs away.

This issue really makes no sense in the context of the stories around it, but the dates are what they are. The framing sequence clarifies that Celia was a willing participant in this scheme, because Morgan promised eternal life. Because Logan interrupts the spell, she does indeed get eternal life, but not eternal youth, so she simply lives on into the present day in an increasingly feeble state.

We round out the pre-World War II stuff with a trip to Japan to train with Ogun. This is where Logan picks up his ninja skills, and since he has them in some of the World War II flashbacks, this must come first. The actual flashbacks from this period are minimal and depict points very early in the training:

  • Wolverine vol 2 #103 has a generic scene from early in Logan’s training. Ogun quotes Sun Tzu at him, as you do.
  • Wolverine vol 2 #89 shows Ogun using his superior skill to toy with Logan. Logan flies into a berserker rage and defeats Ogun, but Ogun tells him that he will not be a true master until he has balanced both his human and animal sides.
  • Wolverine vol 2 #169 shows Logan a few weeks into his training. Ogun’s dojo is attacked by ninjas working for crimelord Ugama Hana. At Ogun’s request, Logan stands aside to let Ogun fight the ninja. Ogun defeats the ninja but then allows Hana to run him through with a sword. Completely unaffected, Ogun removed the sword from his body and decapitates Hana – then tells Logan that death is merely a state of mind, and he is beyond conventional mortal concepts. Logan is, understandably, completely confused by all this, and uncertain whether it’s some sort of trick.

Ogun is the main villain in the Kitty Pryde & Wolverine miniseries, which broadly establishes that he has a magical or psychic ability (it’s never clear which) to transplant his personality into a new body – or possibly a copy of his personality, which then carries on as if it was the original. Ogun tries this on Kitty without success in Kitty Pryde & Wolverine, and indicates that he had the same in mind for Logan – but apparently Logan never realised this at the time, and tells Kitty that he was “blind not to see what he truly was”. So either Ogun was taking it much more slowly with Logan (he breaks Kitty within days) or Logan was much more resistant to his technique. Either way, Logan apparently leaves Ogun believing that they’re on good terms.

Wolverine vol 3 #40 throws in Ogun also points Logan in the direction of another sensei, Bando Suboro. He’s the sensei at Jasmine Falls, where Logan meets Daken’s mother. There’s a stray reference in Wolverine: Origins #9 which tries to place the Jasmine Falls stuff before World War II, but that’s impossible (because by the time Logan leaves Jasmine Falls, Bucky has become the Winter Soldier). So we’ll get to all that in a couple of posts.

Next time, World War II.

Edited on 20 July 2020 to add references to the Savage Wolverine stories.

Bring on the comments

  1. Paul says:

    Housekeeping: Part 4 is probably going to be in two weeks time, since there are four X-books out this week.

  2. […] Next time: World War I and the inter-war period. […]

  3. Andrew says:

    As someone who hasn’t read a lot of solo Wolverine stories from the past 15 or so years, it’s surprising to me how of the stories have dwelled in these continuity backwaters.

  4. Nick Hill says:

    Doesn’t Savage Wolverine 21 + 22 take place during WW I?

  5. Nick Hill says:

    Or is Savage Wolverine not in-continuity? There are 2 other stories in it (#20 and #14-17) which would also fit in this period.

  6. Paul says:

    You’re right, Savage Wolverine is too recent to have been included in the timelines I was taking as my starting point. I’ll have to add those in.

  7. Paul says:

    I did say “incomplete”. It’s not an error, it’s crowdsourced fact checking…!

    On checking the series: blimey, there are *several* stories in Savage Wolverine which take place during this period. I’ll add all those in over the next day or two.

  8. Si says:

    It’s hilarious how in flashbacks Wolverine would constantly strap, for example, broken bayonets to the backs of his hands and be all “I don’t know why, but-” [exaggerated wink at the reader] “-this just feels right.”

  9. Col_Fury says:

    re: “I don’t know why, but-” [exaggerated wink at the reader] “-this just feels right.”
    Ha! 🙂

    In my headcanon, every time Logan straps knives to his hands instead of using his bone claws, it’s because he’s recently broken his bone claws and they’re still growing back, so he has to improvise.

  10. Si says:

    Yeah, retcon-wise it actually makes a lot more sense. He’s been fighting with claws all his life. If he temporarily doesn’t have claws, or even if he’s somehow forgotten he has them, he’d still have all the training and muscle memory that would make him want to fight that way.

  11. Daniel says:

    Reading these, it becomes clear to me that, much like Batman, there are so many types of stories you can tell with Wolverine that are effective on their own, but don’t really gel when you throw them all together to make a coherent character history. I think the character works very well with supernatural / mystical tales, spiritual journeys, period pieces, seedy noir stories, and even science fiction to some degree. Throw all of them together into a timeline and then slap tights on the character and have him fighting giant robots, well, it kind of falls apart.

    Imagine Wolverine sharing stories around the campfire. “Which would you like to hear first? My poor, Victorian upbringing? The one about living in the wilderness with a wolf pack? The time I made a deal with the angel of death? What about when I joined the circus? Did I mention I was once brainwashed and turned into a killing machine for a secret organization? Did I mention I was in WW1 AND WW2? Oh, one time Magneto tore the metal out of my body with his magnet powers. Hey, did I ever mention those leprechauns or the time I went to the moon and a big bald guy sent me back to the dinosaur age?” *crickets*

  12. Col_Fury says:

    re: Si
    I still love the idea that every five years or so, Logan “learns” YET AGAIN that he has claws. Someone should do a montage.

    1917: “Wha…?”
    1923: “The Hell…?”
    1928: “This seems familiar…”
    1933: “Who stabbed me in the leg? Me? What?”
    1938: *wakes up in bed with a dead woman* “Who killed Charlotte? I’ll kill the bast- *snikt*

    …oops.”

    etc.

  13. Daniel says:

    Dude really needed to come up with a Memento-esque system of writing notes to himself. Or maybe tattoo instructions on his back like the Nameless One in Planescape: Torment.

  14. Krzysiek Ceran says:

    He might have tried, only to forget his tattoos don’t last very long due to the healing factor.

  15. Col_Fury says:

    re: Krzysiek Ceran
    And that’s exactly what I never got about Daken. He has all these tattoos (a whole sleeve!) that should be gone within days, his healing factor is replenishing skin cells all the time; maybe he gets them touched up every few days? How much money does this guy have?

    Or maybe Daken got ~MAGIC~ tattoos? oohh..

  16. Paul says:

    It’s actually easier to justify Daken’s tattoos than you might think. In the real world, the immune system responds to tattoo ink by containing its spread – which actually helps to cement it in place. So if Marvel want to claim that Daken’s enhanced healing factor does the same thing but quicker… well, sure, why not?

  17. Thom H. says:

    “I think the character works very well with supernatural / mystical tales, spiritual journeys, period pieces, seedy noir stories, and even science fiction to some degree. Throw all of them together into a timeline and then slap tights on the character and have him fighting giant robots, well, it kind of falls apart.”

    I agree that Wolverine works in a lot of contexts — I actually wish writers would lean into this idea more, though. Someone this old and experienced should be hyper-competent in a lot of ways. Adding some skills to Wolverine’s repertoire besides “using weapons” and “using weapons installed in his body” would make him a more interesting character in my opinion.

  18. Taibak says:

    Thom: He’s already an expert hunter and tracker, has a background in espionage, is fluent in eight languages, practices Zen meditation, is an expert in wilderness survival, and is skilled at multiple forms of combat that don’t involve pointy objects.

    That he tends to limit himself to activities involving violence says more about him than anything else.

  19. Thom H. says:

    Yeah, I get it. I just wish he’d surprise us every once in a while by baking a cake or fixing an interstellar drive or something. Shouldn’t he at least whittle or make moonshine?

    I suppose I want him to be the Nick Offerman of mutants instead of the Sylvester Stallone of mutants.

  20. Martin Smith says:

    >>I just wish he’d surprise us every once in a while by baking a cake

    This reminds me of a great Shortpacked strip which posits that if Batman has mastered everything, that presumably includes Dance Dance Revolution.

  21. Luis Dantas says:

    Batman is at least stern. Wolverine does not have the personality – nor the behavior – that would make his retconned background believable.

    I should probably get used to it. But I keep being reminded of the character no matter what…

  22. Chris V says:

    “I’m the best there is at what I do, but, and what I do is really damn tasty!”

  23. Daniel says:

    Didn’t AOA Wolverine have face tattoos?

    I’m surprised Wolverine hasn’t had more one-off themed “Elseworlds” tales or MAX style stuff that put him into a context removed from mainstream continuity. If that involves baking a cake or running a Gordon Ramsey style kitchen, so be it.

  24. Chris V says:

    Oh, that was the plot of that recent Chris Claremont Wolverine short story, now that I think about it.
    He was in Japan cooking ramen.
    That was kind of different.

  25. Luis Dantas says:

    Wolverine does not appear in very many alternate continuities because there isn’t much room left for novel contrasts anymore. He has accummulated too many contrasts and all-out contradictions on his baseline already, most of which blink into and out of existence according to some esoteric combination of day of the week and plot convenience.

    He has a mysterious past in Japan / Canada / Madripoor, which he both remembers and does not remember.

    He is presented as somehow a nearly feral primitive, a stubborn rebel, a very disciplined soldier, a man with ideas of his own, and a natural leader.

    He is both respectful towards Cyclops and resentful towards him, and has both left his crush towards Jean behind him and missed her forever.

    He both misses and ignores who knows how many former lovers and current children.

    Apparently most people take that to mean that he has depth as a character. Me, I just find him way overmined.

  26. Taibak says:

    I have to agree with Luis on this one. There just isn’t much left to do with Wolverine and the character could use a good long break.

    You know. One where they don’t replace him with a half dozen knockoffs.

  27. Taibak says:

    Chris, Luis: With the amount of time Wolverine has spent in the wilderness, it wouldn’t be much of a stretch for him to be a phenomenal cook.

  28. Thom H. says:

    Yes – this is what I’m saying. He should have at least one creative skill that we can point to as a natural part of his character. You don’t live that long without learning to do something fun to pass the time.

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