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The X-Axis – 2 May 2010

Posted on Sunday, May 2, 2010 by Paul in x-axis

No podcast this weekend, for the reasons explained in the post just below.  We’ll be back in a week’s time.  In the meantime, I’ll make a start on my comics backlog.  Regular readers will recall that last week, Diamond UK didn’t ship anything because of the volcano.  So two weeks’ worth of comics showed up at my house on Friday, and needless to say, I haven’t read them all yet.

But on the principle that I’d better get up to date with the crossovers, because there’s another chapter just around the corner, let’s start with the X-books and the Siege tie-ins.

Dark Wolverine #85 / Wolverine: Origins #47 – These are the first two parts of “Reckoning”, a crossover in which Wolverine and Daken team up (well, kind of) to go after their mutual arch-enemy Romulus.  Presumably this is heading to the final defeat of Romulus in the closing issues of Origins.  It’s a rare example of a story which probably should be a crossover, because it genuinely is important to both characters, and shouldn’t be taking place off-panel for either book.  But of course, this is Wolverine: Origins, so it’s time for yet more convolutions.  Wolverine, it turns out, correctly predicts that Daken will betray him, and uses him to feed bad information to Romulus.  That’s fine as far it goes, except for one thing: we’ve only just seen that story in Origins‘ previous arc, with Ruby Thursday in the place of Daken.  Yes, they acknowledge it; yes, the idea is that Wolverine is messing with Romulus’ head to draw him out.  But a bit more variation, surely…?

It’s not a great story, unfortunately.  As usual, Romulus is the least interesting thing about this book, and a Millar-esque determination to keep Daken unlikeable threatens to drain most of his potential appeal as a lead character into the bargain.  Stephen Segovia, drawing the first part, is the sort of hyperactive artist who can be quite enjoyable when he’s doing melodramatic insanity, but doesn’t really suit an issue of conversations around tables.  Will Conrad, on the second, is generally solid, though his Romulus is almost unrecognisably off-model.  Mind you, I actually prefer his design, which has the merit of not being quite so ludicrous.

The big reveal, though, is Daken explaining Wolverine’s great plan: he’s going to defeat Romulus by exposing him to the world and ruining his mystique.  It’s one of those moments where you pause and go, “Really?”  Because, point one, four years to get here, and we’re doing The Wizard of Oz?  And point two, are we really doing a story based on the proposition that after all the mystery, Romulus is a bit disappointing and dull when you finally get to see him?  You almost have to wonder whether it’s a gesture of grand self-parody, but I have a sinking feeling it probably isn’t.

Mighty Avengers #36 – The final issue before the reboot.  And to be fair, there’s more finality about this than you might expect, because it is indeed the end of Hank Pym’s splinter group of Avengers.  Or rather, it’s the end of Hank Pym’s storyline.  Officially this is a Siege tie-in, but it qualifies for that banner mainly by having the rest of the team appear in subplot pages fighting the Thunderbolts in a mirror of Thunderbolts #143.  The meat of the issue is actually Hank, Jocasta and a couple of ultra-obscure guest stars taking on Ultron and his army of robot brides in a fantastically absurd climax.  It’s just plain nuts, but Dan Slott tempers the goofiness by playing up Hank’s painful lack of empathy for Jocasta to give it a slightly bitter undercurrent.  Good issue.

New Avengers #64 – It’s a Brian Bendis issue during a crossover, so you know what to expect: flashbacks!  Yes, the Avengers themselves are pushed to the margins in order that we can spend an issue looking in on the Hood and his army of Z-list villains.  Mike McKone’s art on the Siege sequences is a bit muddled – it’s one of those “hurl characters at the page” routines which kind of gets over the chaos but gives you no real idea of what’s going on or where.  But to give credit where it’s due, Bendis does get something out of the Hood himself, a character way out of his depth with the A-listers, who is just realising that this possibly isn’t going to work out so well for him.  Technically this is the last issue of New Avengers before the relaunch, but in practice it seems to be building to some sort of “last stand of the Hood” thing in the New Avengers: Finale oneshot, which sounds suspiciously like plain old New Avengers #65 to me.  Bit lacking in terms of plot, but this is one of those Bendis stories which does enough with the character moments to stand up anyway.

Thor #609 – In this issue!  Loki explains his motivations!  And… um… well, yes, that doesn’t work out very well for the story, to be honest.  Because Loki’s motivations, it turns out, are so slender and contrived that it unavoidably results in a scene where Loki says “Just because” and a bunch of other characters gawp at him and complain that the plot doesn’t make any sense.  And   The idea seems to be that Loki is causing trouble for no particular reason; he’s just a stirrer by nature.  He is, after all, the God of Mischief.  Actually, as a take on the character, this could work.  The problem is that it’s been set up as some sort of mystery, “What’s Loki up to?”  And if the answer turns out to be “Nothing in particular”, then that’s, shall we say, a bit of an anticlimax.  On the plus side, there’s a neat scene with Balder at the end, and a cute bit with an atheist supervillain.  But… mmm.

Thunderbolts #143 – The final issue before the new direction, and what you get is the team continuing to implode while they fight the Avengers.  Or rather, while the ones who can be bothered fight the Avengers, and the rest make a break for it.  It’s two thirds of a good issue, at which point it suddenly turns into an issue of Mighty Avengers and most of the team just sort of get beaten without it feeling like a pay-off.  There’s a nice little epilogue with Ant-Man and the Headsman’s brother, and then the issue ends with an introduction of the new status quo which isn’t a segue so much as a handbrake turn.  The bottom line is that it all feels a bit truncated.  Good art, though.

X-Factor #204 – This is a “Second Coming: Revelations” tie-in, which means it’s not actually part of the “Second Coming” storyline, but it’s a tie-in to the crossover anyway.  In practice, that means that for no readily apparent reason, Bastion has decided that this would be a perfect time to attack X-Factor as well, something he could have done at any point.  And again, the contrived plot alarm sounds as soon as you have characters asking the unavoidable “But why, sir?” questions.  Still, leave that point aside and it’s a good issue.  David’s villains have a nice line in tortured yet vaguely consistent logic, and there’s a nice spread from the stark-raving Bastion at the top of the chain of command down to basically sane military types who are simply trusting to the chain of command.  Valentine De Landro’s art is on form.  The crossover is turned to advantage by having it literally interrupt the Baron Mordo storyline in progress.  And the cliffhanger ending is another winner, simply on the “Hold on, that can’t have happened, can it?” level.

X-Men Forever #22 / X-Men Forever Annual #1 – Issue #22 is the middle chapter of a three-parter where the X-Men finally go to confront the Consortium, and basically it involves them all going to the bad guys base and fighting them.  It’s fine, it’s a good old-school superhero routine, but there’s not much more I can really say about it.  The Annual is a flashback story explaining the start of the Logan/Jean love affair which was a plot point in earlier issues.  Of course, the romantic tension had been established long, long ago, so it’s really a question of putting the two characters in a situation where they can be nudged in a different direction.  In practice, that turns out to mean a story where they go undercover to investigate a dodgy holiday resort run by evildoers, and etc etc.  At times it feels like some romantic character moments which have been bolted on to a fill-in story, but it does hang together on the whole.

X-Men Legacy #235 / X-Force #26 – Parts 4 and 5 of “Second Coming”, in which there is running around, and there is chasing, and there is fighting, and Somebody Dies.  The all-important death comes in X-Force (which is an odd choice, since you’d think you’d want it in one of the X-Men books), and I don’t know quite what to make of it.  To be honest, I don’t really buy it.  It’s treating a major (albeit largely unused) character as cannon fodder, and killing him off at a suspiciously early stage in a 14-part story where we all know Phoenix will be along sooner or later.   If they’re serious, then frankly it feels a bit desperate – in a sense, I doubt they’re serious about it because I give them more credit than that.  We shall see what happens.  That aside… Legacy has art by Greg Land, who’s having one of his better days.  There’s still some awkward posing and stiff expressions to drag things down, but less than usual, and he actually does quite a good Warlock, perhaps because the character is so unavoidably at odds with the rest of his style.  X-Force has Mike Choi and Sonia Oback, and very little space for its nominal lead characters – it’s mainly Rogue, Kurt and Hope on the run from Bastion.  The art errs on the side of over-busy, and loses some of Choi and Oback’s style in the process, but it’s not bad.

X-Men: Pixie Strikes Back! #3 – Okay, then, so now we have a clear explanation of what the hell was going on in the first two issues, and we’re heading for the big finale!  It’s still a decidedly off-kilter story, as you’d expect from Kathryn Immonen and Sara Pichelli.  I’m not quite sure why you’d want to tie Pixie to the Mastermind sisters, who don’t really seem like characters that have much in common with her.  But I like the basic take on Pixie, as well as the exasperation of the supporting cast.  Immonen gets X-23’s character, which is very hard to write well, and understands how to make her work in a group cast.  And the art is lovely.  This could still go either way in the final issue – it could redefine Pixie in an interesting way which will give other writers somewhere to work from, or it could end up cluttering her up horrifically.  The series so far has been wonky enough that it’s hard to call.  But I’m definitely intrigued, and that’s the key thing.

Bring on the comments

  1. Patrick H says:

    On X-Factor 204: I thought the cliffhanger was pretty telegraphed. Earlier in the novel when Madrox repeatedly insists a certain character do something (trying to avoid explicit spoilers here–hence the vagueness), and when you remember that character’s certain secondary power, what’s going on at the end seems pretty clear.

  2. Patrick H says:

    Sorry–that should be “earlier in the issue.” Just got done grading American lit papers!

  3. yeah! ho! wah! says:

    the death in second coming: youre giving them more credit than i do, paul. i think their being serious here. “we need at least one major character to die, so fans understand that the crossover is IMPORTANT. nobodys doing anything with xxx, right? and he hasnt been killed in any previous storyline, has he? ok, lets kill him off.” im annoyed, because thats obviously not good storytelling. but i cant work up the energy to be upset about it, either. hell be back anyway.

  4. Brack says:

    Siege: Loki was where you could find out what Loki’s up to. Even then, while you could see what he was up to, why he was up to it was still a little obscure. The whole “I’m the God of Mischief, I can’t help” defence does play into what was going on there, but not sure exactly how Siege itself gets him what he wants.

  5. DonWok says:

    Think that character death may be permanent (or at least not reversed by the end of 2nd coming). its been telegraphed pretty obviously for months now and Matt fraction did say in a recent word balloon interview that the Beast was coming back for a funeral.

  6. Omar Karindu says:

    Not to mention that they’re giving a huge push to a newer character with a power that duplicates the main power of the newly-deceased, and thus the death is an excuse to grant even greater prominence to he aforesaid newer character.

  7. Michael says:

    The death in Second Coming was totally a “designated corpse” moment. They had to kill someone because that’s what you do in a big crossover these days, and they basically threw a dart. I expect they are serious now, but that it’ll be reversed in a few years anyway.

  8. Justin says:

    Well, they kind of have an out on this anyway. I haven’t read the last few parts of 2nd Coming yet, but I think a lot if not most people saw this coming a mile away. Without getting into details with respect to spoilers, there was a storyline a few years ago that gives you a potential easy out/new take on this character. I’m not saying that it’s the direction the writers are going to take, just saying its an option. I hope somebody breaks the spoiler here soon so I can sound like less of a jackass.

  9. moose n squirrel says:

    How many years has Banshee been dead now? I feel like Kurt might be in the ground for a while. It wasn’t really Bastion that killed him, after all – it was years of being relegated to the fringes of the X-books. He was in Excalibur forever, and then only spent time on a main X-Men team during the Chuck Austen run, if I’m remembering things right. That’s a long period of time to let a character slip from A-list to “guy who can be readily replaced by Pixie.”

    Everything about this death was cheap, from the painfully transparent foreshadowing to the incredibly obvious way he was dispatched – did anyone not have “teleporting between Hope and some random baddie” as the way he’d kick it?

  10. moose n squirrel says:

    As far as Loki’s motives go – didn’t Straczynski spend an entire issue of his run establishing that Loki had wanted to wipe out the Asgardians since childhood, when Odin killed his dad and then raised him out of a grudging sense of duty?

  11. Tim O'Neil says:

    The problem with Siege is that for whatever reason they decided to reveal Loki’s motivation in a book – the Siege: Loki one shot – that seems to have been written around the main events of the series, as an afterthought. If you read Siege: Loki (and, for that matter, JMS’ Thor, as was pointed out above), his actions make a lot of sense. If you are just reading the main Siege series or even the Avengers books as well, it’s totally inexplicable.

    Besides, how weird is it that they gave away so many of the plot point for Siege #4 two weeks early?

  12. ZZZ says:

    What the heck was the deal with all the spoilers in the Siege tie-ins this week? I understand when books published during big crossovers are set after them and have characters saying vague “glad everything worked out okay” dialogue, because no one really thinks the world is going to end or anything, but to give away specific plot beats that I can’t imagine aren’t going to be played as major twists when they happen in Siege 4 just seems like bad planning.

    DC had a similar problem with Cry For Justice being spoiled in an issue of Justice League. It’s like even when the “big two” screw up they’re copying each other.

    As for the death in Second Coming, I just hope that the character who died – assuming that death isn’t reversed before the storyline is even over – doesn’t fall victim to Marvel feeling self-conscious about bringing characters back to life. Granted, they did just bring back Cypher and Warlock, but their return was set up decades ago, and we all assumed Jean Grey and Banshee would be back by now, and that hasn’t happened yet. I’d hate to see one of my favorite characters stay dead for years just because Marvel was afraid people would snort derisively and say “I saw that coming” if they brought him back.

  13. Paul says:

    The final issue of SIEGE is running late, but they can’t delay everything to wait for it, because that would derail practically the whole line. So, as with the final issue of REBORN, they’ve pretty much had to write it off so far as spoilers are concerned.

  14. Justin says:

    Well, to be fair, Kurt was brought in to the main X-books right after Excalibur ended and was in through the Neo stuff and straight through Uncanny while New X-men was Morrison’s book. Anyway, what I was clumsily alluding to before was that Draco mess. Kurt being the son of a demon seems to me to be an easy way to bring him back.

  15. maxwell's hammer says:

    Quite frankly, I’d rather Kurt stay dead than have to awknowledge that ‘the storyline not to be named’ even exists.

  16. Thomas says:

    I don’t quite understand the anger about the internet meme objecting to the foreshadowing of the death in this issue. Sometimes I think unpredictability is overrated; another way to think about predictability is narrative inevitability. We’re so used to shocking twists that we ignore the virtue of a story in which everything falls into place in a way we can see coming.

    I guess I’m not particularly defending this storyline, which which may well have been hamhanded, but the fact that the death was well prepared for is better than it seeming to come out of nowhere.

  17. Taibak says:

    Eh. I’d rather do a Kurt-in-the-afterlife story playing off his Catholicism. It’d be a tricky story to tell, but it could pay off by having him get rid of some of that damned angst he’s been stuck with. Get him back to a happier state of affairs after defeating D’Spayre or something.

    Bonus points if he gets to kill Azazel along the way.

  18. Randy says:

    Instead of using the Draco storyline to bring Kurt back, they could use the idea in his short-lived solo series where Mephisto was grooming him for some kind of demon war. Kurt would be alive but fearing he was being used for demonic purposes.

  19. Tim O'Neil says:

    Marvel delayed half of their line when Civil War #7 was delayed, I guess they just didn’t want the headache again.

  20. yeah! ho! wah! says:

    i cant base this on any facts, but i always had the impression that nightcrawler was more popular and significant than banshee, who i always saw as a supporting character at the best of times. im not waiting for banshees return… in the contrary, i think he should stay dead and make room for his daughter. nightcrawler, on the other hand, i want to see resurrected in a couple of years or so. hes such a great character, and really central to the x-mythos.

  21. odessasteps says:

    Also, the delays won’t matter when everything is collected in a giant TPB.

    The evergreen (tpb) is more important than the ephemeral (single issue).

  22. moose n squirrel says:

    You know who I wish they’d kill, if they really felt they had to kill someone? Cyclops. Man, am I tired of Cyclops.

  23. Paul says:

    @odessasteps: For some books, sure. SIEGE, though? I don’t see that collection being an evergreen. It’s not a self-contained story, it’s just the spine for a bunch of crossovers and the pay-off for a couple of years of Norman Osborn stories.

  24. Paul C says:

    If Marvel don’t feel that ‘Siege’ is important enough to hold back for fear of spoilers (and goodness knows they’ve spent long enough getting to this point), then why should the general reader care at all. It’s the conclusion to a multi-year storyline and they just seem to be shrugging their shoulders at it.

    There’d be nothing wrong with delaying it a month and then doing a round of double-shipping to get back on track.

    The convoluted mess in ‘Dark Wolverine/Wolverine:Origins’ was just so BAD. I had the same kind of moment where I paused mid-story, hung my head and shook it for a minute, then reluctantly read on hoping it didn’t get any worse.

    It has taken way too long to get to this stage, the over-arching storyline is just dull and the characters come across as complete idiots. Wolverine/Daken/Romulus have all had chances to kill Wolverine/Daken/Romulus, yet they always pass on the opportunity. It feels like the same story over and over and over again.

    Plus they could have got similar artists to do the crossover, it might look a bit jarring in the eventual trade.

  25. Joseph says:

    I second the motion put forth by moose n squirrel. I think the conjecture about Scott dying over the last few weeks was much more interesting than killing off a beloved character just so he can flip flop on the point he just made to Cyclops at the start of the crossover. Yes, I suppose “I believe in you” means a lot more coming from Kurt, but Hope certainly doesn’t know that.

  26. --D. says:

    Um, isn’t the title “second coming.” Doesn’t that suggest a resurrection? Christian themes?

    I’m not reading it, nor have I read Messiah Complex or Messiah War, so I don’t know what I’m talking about.

    But it seems like bringing Kurt back could well be on the plate for the climax of the story.

  27. Adam says:

    I think a little bit of thought HAS been put into Nightcrawler’s death, more than just “Who can we kill now for extra gravity?”.

    As Nightcrawler is generally regarded as one of those “soul of the team”-type characters, his death fits with the theme of Cyclops’s willing to insure the survival of mutants at the cost of the X-Men’s soul; we’re to see that things have progressed far enough now to where that soul is dead. Nightcrawler’s playing the part of Piggy in THE LORD OF THE FLIES. In theory this should all lead to a realization by the X-Men that they’ve lost something important and can’t keep acting like this and a re-dedication to what Millar would call “post-human ethics” in ULTIMATE X-MEN.

    And I think that works. Plus, it’s not like we’ve seen any real development of Nightcrawler in forever, anyway. The last real storyline ABOUT him I can remember, in fact, is the aforementioned Draco story, which was actually concerned with regressing the character’s development rather than moving him forward. Since he’s otherwise clearly at the end of his usefulness, let him serve a story by dying heroically.

    It would, of course, be more effective if we weren’t 100% jaded about death in comics, but that’s not fair to the storytellers.

  28. Hm. That’s a good point. This actually would be a Second Coming for that character. The…other one – the “revolving door,” as it were – is returning for anywhere between the fourth and twelvetieth time. Not that I want to be too literal about these things!

    I…I might actually explode into a firey emu of rage if any wanky Daeimon-Power mechanism was used to bring back that character. Now that is a literalism too far. Literally. Metaphorically. Shut up.

    //\oo/\\

  29. Argus says:

    To be fair they have been toying with Kurt having outlived his usefulness for a while now. Didn’t he “quit” the team during Manifest Destiny or something?

    I admit, the whole thing does reek of “somebody needs to die”, throwing a dart, and he buys it, etc. Why not Dazzler, Northstar (again!), Gambit, Iceman…? They’ve all been utterly unimportant for ages now.

    His character has been meandering for a while now, but I really blame the lack of focus on anyone other than Cyclops, Beast and Emma in Uncanny, or Rogue in Legacy (I don’t feel I should be blaming Mike Carey, I reckon he’d do a wonderful Nightcrawler given half the chance. I just mean outside those four, no other character is really getting development).

    Colossus and Psylocke in all honesty felt a bit played out just prior to their deaths (I say this as an irrational fan) – and what have they really done since their return? Similarly, I fear Shadowcat will also be neglected and pop up from panel to panel. I almost wish a lot of major X-Men were outside the main book, in X-Factor or equivalent, where they could receive a bit more tender loving care!

    Or alternatively perhaps the problem is that the X-Men have just become too static overall, the core cast never really changing and the younger characters just being shunted into limbo. Really we should be having a team led by Cannonball or someone with maybe one or two old guard around…

    Hmm, anyway, rant over 🙂

  30. Justin says:

    Just had a horrible thought — what if Second Coming is hope using the Phoenix Force to bring back all of the dead mutants since Decimation. The only way she works as a significant character in this however many year storyline is if she can fundamentally change the current mutant status quo. If all she amounts to is proof that mutant kids can still happen, then her existence alone is good enough and there is nothing to protect her from. The way Marvel and DC weirdly sync up just gave me a vision of the end of Blackest Night but with Banshee, Nightcrawler, Caliban, etc…

  31. Suzene says:

    “I admit, the whole thing does reek of “somebody needs to die”, throwing a dart, and he buys it, etc. Why not Dazzler, Northstar (again!), Gambit, Iceman…?”

    With Yost writing three of the above four in X-Men: Hellbound, it may be more likely than you think. 😉

  32. maxwell's hammer says:

    Concerning Seige: how could anything in #4 possibly be spoiled? Issue #3 set up a fight between the heroes and the Void. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to extrapolate that one out to its logical conclusion.

    Also: I like how with Hope, they’ve created an inverse-Cable, who was a man from the future trying to prevent a horrible apocalyptic age. Hope is a girl from the future who is supposedly going to CAUSE a horrible apocalyptic age.

  33. Entropest says:

    “Not to mention that they’re giving a huge push to a newer character with a power that duplicates the main power of the newly-deceased, and thus the death is an excuse to grant even greater prominence to he aforesaid newer character.”

    What irks me about this is that the duplicate power mentioned isn’t even that character’s real power. Just something arbitrarily picked up from a crappy story. I forgot what the real power was. Something about pink fart clouds…? I dunno.

  34. acespot says:

    I agree with your asessment of Land’s art. His Warlock was one of the BEST Warlocks I’ve ever seen, if not TEH BESTEST!
    It was made all the more impressive by virtue of its appearing so diametrically at odds with the rest of Land’s work…

  35. ZZZ says:

    @maxwell’s hammer

    Like I mentioned in my earlier post, just having characters acknowledge that the good guys are going to win is (in my opinion) fine. The problem is that they give away things that seem like they’re supposed to be big moments.

    For example: it would be fine for a comic published during Crisis on Infinite Earths but set after CoIE to “spoil” the fact that the universt isn’t destroyed and that most of the heroes survive. But having a scene where Wally West muses on Barry Allen’s heroic sacrifice complete with a flashback to the iconic panel of Barry dying in an issue printed before the issue where Barry dies would rob an important scene of a lot of its power.

    I don’t want to get more specific about the Seige spoilers, but suffice it to say there’s a difference between telling us the heroes win and showing us HOW they win AND having characters mention that they totally didn’t see it coming.

    On another note: now that the identity of the deader in Second Coming if out of the bag, I want to pitch my idea for a new ongoing: Nightcrawler, Banshee, Jean Grey, Thunderbird, Maggot, Joseph and Changeling fight crime in heaven as – The Unliving Ex-Men! Maybe throw in Petra and Sway to finally actually do something with those characters.

  36. --D. says:

    I think that the biggest mistake made in the early ’90’s was bringing all of the old cast members back into the fold. Claremont was doing an excellent job of phasing out the elders, and introducing new cast over time. Old cast members went on to other things, and the new members stepped up. This allowed for natural progression. Over the years, some of the New Mutants could have been brought in to the X-Men, and even given leadership roles. Some of the elders could have retired from active service. Beast was a prime candidate for heading off to a laboratory and some guest appearances. Cyclops had several opportunities to go off and start a family. Banshee retired. Wolverine was out and about, not constantly here. At the time, the different X-Titles were more independent of one another, and so characters who retired or moved off to another title seemsd to be progressing in their lives.

    When all of these characters were brought back into a more cohesive X-Verse, it felt as though they all came out of retirement, and it’s been more difficult for them to make progress or retire because no matter which book they appear in, they’re still part of the “X-Men.” You can move Cannonball around from X-Force to Legacy to Uncanny to wherever, and he’s still doing the same old thing. Once upon a time, if Cannonball had moved from NMU to Uncanny, or from X-Force to Uncanny, it would have seemed like character development. Now it just feels like roster shuffling.

    These characters need to age and to move on so that the new characters have room to grow. This doesn’t mean that they have to be out of circulation, or even relegated to guest appearances. But they do have to be in one book, and each book needs a more fixed cast. Relegate Cyclops to Astonishing and give him a senior team. Let younger, but established, characters take over Uncanny and do the serious superheroing cosmic adventures and huge complex plots. I’d love to see an Uncanny led by Cannonball and Moonstar, with supporting members like Kurt, Bobby, Polaris, and Rachel. Great stories can be had about teamwork, leadership, etc. The oldest, “most experienced” doesn’t have to be team leader. Wolverine always took second chair to Cyclops. Nightcrawler would be happy to play elder-statesman to Cannonball.

  37. Lambnesio says:

    I agree with –D; one thing that really frustrates me is that Marvel comics are currently swarming with really great teenage characters, and it feels like we’re never going to see them step up and fulfill that promise. When are Anole, Rockslide, Hisako and Pixie going to be core X-Men? If nobody ever gets old or retires, then these kids can’t grow up and take over.

    Marvel is constantly publishing future versions of the X-Men or Avengers where characters like Gert Yorkes have become leaders, but it’s hard to believe we’ll ever really see it.

    On the other hand though, can the same characters continue to inhabit the same books twenty years from now? Thirty years

  38. Lambnesio says:

    Um, missed a question mark there.

  39. Valhallahan says:

    Totally agree with –D, well said.

  40. --D. says:

    Sorry, that was a bit rambling. I had a beastly hangover. The third martini is never as good an idea as you think it is.

  41. Mike says:

    Says you.

  42. Joseph says:

    While I’ve no problem with moving up the old new mutants and generally agree with –D, I generally find most of the current “student” characters to be about as compelling as old shoe leather. Most of the fee who were decent characters were either depowered or slaughtered upon the Yost altar during the last eighteen new x-men/mutants/what have you relaunches.

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