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Phoenix #8 annotations

Posted on Wednesday, February 5, 2025 by Paul in Annotations

As always, this post contains spoilers, and page numbers go by the digital edition.

PHOENIX #8
Writer: Stephanie Phillips
Artist: Alessandro Miracolo
Colour artist: David Curiel
Letterer: Cory Petit
Editor: Annalise Bissa

PHOENIX.

Despite what it says on the recap page, Jean isn’t in the Blue Area of the Moon, but in a floating fire cocoon in space, which Nova and Rocket Racoon are keeping watch on – they were on a planet last issue, but let’s assume they saw it shoot up into the sky and followed. The Blue Area stuff is all just a hallucination as Jean converses with the Phoenix itself. The recap page says that this was caused by Adani on purpose, but the actual story seems to be saying that it’s some sort of side effect of the Phoenix being “fractured” when Adani resisted giving up the Phoenix power, and managed to hold on to fraction of it.

In keeping with Rise of the Powers of X, this story takes the line that Jean and the Phoenix are, if not literally identical, at least two sides of the same coin. The Phoenix presents itself as an embodiment of the cycle of life.

The Phoenix re-stages X-Men #137 and the trial by combat on the moon that led to Jean killing herself to end the Dark Phoenix Saga. In this version, the X-Men fight Phoenix herself, instead of teaming with her against the Imperial Guard. Jean interprets this as a reminder that “all power comes at a cost”, though quite how it shows that, I’m not really following. The Phoenix, appearing as Dark Phoenix, seems to claim that it bonds with “a being of great power and will” (presumably Jean) in order to help them “rise beyond what they were”, the idea apparently being that the whole Dark Phoenix thing was in the service of a longer-term goal of helping Jean ascend in some way. Jean claims that she became Dark Phoenix because she opposed the Phoenix, thereby opposing her own nature, “and allowed the worst parts of me to become consumed by fire”.

There are a few issues with this, although whether they’re bugs or features depends on what you think the story is trying to do. As everyone knows, the Dark Phoenix storyline involves Jean casually committing genocide by wiping out an entire planet of D’Bari (in X-Men #135). In the original story, her get-out clause is diminished responsibility: she has more power than any human could control, and on top of that her psychic blocks are inadvertently overcome by Mastermind. When Jean was brought back from the dead, the explanation was that Dark Phoenix was never Jean at all, but the Phoenix Force taking her form – this was meant to absolve Jean from genocide on the impeccable ground that it was never her.

But post-Krakoa, Jean is Phoenix, so that excuse doesn’t work any more. And this story effectively dismantles her original excuse of diminished responsibility, essentially claiming that she could have controlled the Phoenix all along if only she’d been a bit more self-aware, and that the problem was her attempt to limit the Phoenix power, not Mastermind meddling with the blocks. The intended moral seems to be that redemption for the genocide of the D’Bari is impossible – which is fair enough, since decades of stories have repeatedly failed to resolve it to anyone’s satisfaction- and that instead Jean needs to embrace her past as a catalyst for transformation. (A less sympathetic interpretation might be that genocide is fine when it’s committed in the service of self-actualisation.)

Thematically, this calls back to the older, wiser Adani’s narration of the opening scene in issue #1, in which she claimed that “redemption, like an omnipotent deity, does not exist. Redemption is to be chased, never attained.”

Anyway, Phoenix emerges from her cocoon in a black and yellow costume (with a starfield effect) declaring that she’s the guardian of the cosmic balance.

SUPPORTING CAST.

Adani is hanging around with Perrikus again after all. She’s retained a fraction of the Phoenix power, and remembers the experience of having the whole Phoenix power as “freedom”. For some reason, when she loses control, her powers summon up a bunch of Brood for her to fight; another release of Phoenix energy makes them all vanish again. Perrikus concludes (apparently correctly) that her powers are driven by emotion and that she can achieve greater effects when she’s angry.

This seemingly prompts him to attack her in the hope of provoking a response; somehow or other, either she or Perrikus is able to control the resulting effect and make sure that it brings back the Dark Gods (a goal she seems perfectly happy to help with). In fact, she doesn’t seem that angry at the key moment, and instead she’s asking Perrikus to stop attacking her.

Rocket Raccoon and Nova are still hanging around keeping an eye on Jean. Neither of them has any idea what to do, but Nova’s solution is to wait and see, while Rocket just wants to shoot at the cocoon and see what happens – he regards it as something that has replaced Jean, at least initially.

Captain Marvel and Sif have left off panel since the last issue. Sif has apparently gone back to her station on the Bifrost, and Captain Marvel has gone to “help free the Galactic Council after Thanos’ attack”. We’re not told what happened to Thanos or the Warlock’s Eye (though presumably Sif took it back to Asgard), or who the Galactic Council are being freed from (presumably Thanos’s forces, acting on standing orders?).

VILLAINS.

Perrikus is very disappointed that Adani didn’t hold on to the Phoenix force. His main motivation in this issue, which hasn’t come up before, is to bring back the Dark Gods. At first, he thinks that he can use Adani’s power to do this by teaching her to focus, but then he works out that the trick is to make her emotional instead. As soon as the Dark Gods reappear, he stands in a group with them, facing Adani.

The Dark Gods. Adani and Perrikus refer to their home as “the Shadow Realm”, but in the original Thor storyline it was identified as “Narcisson”. I’m not aware of any story where the realm itself got lost or banished, although many of the Dark Gods were massacred by Desak in a subplot in Thor vol 2 #43, so it’s possible that Stephanie Phillips is reading that as a “fall of Narcisson” story, or simply that something happened to the place while Perrikus was in jail between Thor vol 2 #53 and Phoenix #1.

The Dark Gods who appear at the end of the issue are (left to right):

  • D’Chel with the purple cloud
  • Perrikus himself
  • Adva (in yellow)
  • Slototh (the black shape thing)
  • Tokkots (with the wings)
  • Majeston Zelia (on the right with the headdress)

They’re the same group that Adani dreamed about in issue #6, which was apparently a prophecy of this moment.

FOOTNOTES:

Page 2: Obviously, this is a loose re-creation of X-Men #100 (despite the footnote, it wasn’t actually called Uncanny X-Men at that point), where Jean sacrifices her life to pilot a space shuttle through cosmic rays while everyone else shelters in the back, and comes back to life as Phoenix.

Page 6: The fight with Thanos was last issue. The dialogue from Beast, and the line from Cyclops that straddles pages 6-7, are a truncated version of an exchange in X-Men #137, immediately after the X-Men are teleported into the Blue Area for the trial by combat. As Jean says, in the original version, they were fighting alongside her against the Imperial Guard. Cyclops’ other line of dialogue on page 7, once he starts looking for Phoenix, is original.

Page 10: Perrikus told Adani that “true power isn’t something you believe in, it’s something you wield” in issue #2. Phoenix “showed [Adani] that limitless power can come with immeasurable pain” in the previous issue, when Adani was exposed to Jean’s back story; Adani was linked to the Phoenix in the same issue.

Page 12: As Adani says, she did try to resist Jean reclaiming the Phoenix at the end of last issue.

Page 18: Jean “sacrificed myself because I thought it was the only option to control the power sof the Phoenix” when she committed suicide at the end of X-Men #137.

Bring on the comments

  1. Omar Karindu says:

    This is all rather vague, especially given that “cosmic balance” can mean whatever the writer wants it to.

  2. Michael says:

    I think the idea is that in addition to having some of Jean’s powers, Adani also has some of Jean’s memories and Adani accidentally brought the Brood to life.
    “or who the Galactic Council are being freed from (presumably Thanos’s forces, acting on standing orders?)”
    I think the idea is that the Galactic Council only agreed to put Thanos in charge in the first place because they were mind controlled and Carol has gone to snap them out of it.
    The idea that Dark Phoenix was a result of Jean’s fears comes from Uncanny X-Men 243. Jean and Maddie have merged and they say:
    “It’s easy to preach strength and independence but look at the cost! I wanted so much to be my own woman,Ororo– I was so terrified of what the Phoenix offered– I denied it with every fiber of my being! Dark Phoenix was one result, the Goblin Queen the other!”
    Philips seems to be interpreting that as Jean/ Maddie speaking to their friend Ororo and that both of their transformations were a result of them not being willing to accept the Phoenix. (There are other ways to interpret that line.)
    At least this issue focused on Jean and not on Adani’s monologuing- Breevort seems to have realized how much people hated that. But there’s still plenty of problems- we have the lack of clarity about what the Dark Gods need to be freed from and why Carol needed to rescue the Galactic Council.

  3. Sam says:

    “Anyway, Phoenix emerges from her cocoon in a black and yellow costume (with a starfield effect) declaring that she’s the guardian of the cosmic balance.”

    No offense to Paul, but I literally rolled my eyes when I read that sentence. This sounds awful, how long until Marvel pulls the plug on it?

  4. Omar Karindu says:

    The post-Phoenix Jean was found in a cocoon Avengers v.1 #263. But that was just a clever misdirect, since the issue featured the villains who created Him/Adam Warlock and Paragon/Her/Ayesha, both of whom tend to incubate in cocoons.

    I think the “cocoon” in that story turned out to be some moldy cardboard.

    Phillips seems to have either taken it literally based on the cover or is just straight up borrowing from Adam Warlock. Maybe all cosmic entities use cocoons when they want a to try out new costumes and pretentious, er, portentous epithets?

  5. Luis Dantas says:

    The point of this story really isn’t coming across very clearly at all, but I am starting to wonder if a part of it isn’t to redefine what the Phoenix is and how it relates to Jean.

    Right now I am of half a mind to accept that Phoenix is similar to Doctor Who in that both are supposed to have their “true” role and nature revisited and redefined every now and then.

    This story may have attempted to say that right now Phoenix is all about seeking people that want to have a lot of power _real bad_ and giving them a chance to see if they can deal with the consequences.

    Apparently Stephanie is telling us that Dark Phoenix was _not_ supposed to develop into a separate entity in X-Men #100, but instead to be subsummed into Jean for a length of time that I will describe as “comicbook forever”. And it would, except that Jean subconsciously forbade it. Now that Jean is more confident and better aware of Phoenix’s true goals they have fused as they were “always” meant to.

    Meanwhile, the fraction of Phoenix that is with Adani has been guided by the emotions of Perrikus and Adani herself into giving Perrikus the second chance of living with his fellow Dark Gods. Presumably we will soon see if Perrikus (and Adani) can actually deal with the consequences.

  6. The Other Michael says:

    I’m sure whatever shocking new status quo and role for the Phoenix is developed here will last easily as long as Galactus-as-Lifebringer, Galactus-as-Galen, or Galactus-as-dead did.

    This series is just not doing a dang thing for me.

  7. Thom H. says:

    Can we please stop endlessly rehearsing Phoenix’s greatest hits and redefining its relationship with Jean? Please?

    There have to be other stories you can tell with it/her. Maybe start by giving Jean a personality beyond “has a difficult relationship with the Phoenix/her own power.”

    And no, “is now some kind of goddess” doesn’t count.

  8. Chris V says:

    Yes, Thom is so correct. The problem with Jean is that she has no personality. She’s an ideal of the “mother” archetype (from the triple goddess), she has hardly ever been written as a three-dimensional person (X-Men: Red is the sole exception). It’s sad to say, but Jean was actually more interesting in the Silver Age than almost any other time. It’s simply amazing that this series seems to have found a way to position Jean as an even more boring character.

  9. Diana says:

    @Chris V: I don’t think the problem is that Jean has no personality; it’s that this book isn’t set up for her to actually show her personality. No one in this cast has a pre-existing meaningful relationship with ehr – no Ororo, no Rachel, no Hank, no Logan or Scott – and even the villains she’s fighting aren’t *her* villains. As you yourself point out, Red worked precisely *because* she was up against an adversary she had a personal connection to; what’s Jean’s history with Thanos?

  10. Chris V says:

    I’m not saying that Jean intrinsically has no personality. Any fictional character can be made fully-rounded with the correct writer and plotting. That was what X-Men: Red did for her, while it lasted. You are correct that this book is absolutely the wrong direction to take Jean. It takes a character who has usually been written as bland and strips her of the human elements any writer has bothered to give her. Jean needs to be kept away from the Phoenix and Scott if she’s to be fleshed out as a viable character.

  11. M says:

    What is supposed to be going on?

    First they hate gods for their irresponsibility and false promises, now they’re resurrecting some of the worst.

    The book just established that Jean and Phoenix are one and the same, now it’s fragmented and pawn girl held onto part of it.

  12. Luis Dantas says:

    It may be a way of showing that the Phoenix is an expression of Transcendence.

    It could be made clearer.

  13. Loz says:

    You know what? After this we really need another miniseries about the Scarlet Witch making amends for ‘No More Mutants’. We haven’t retold that story enough times either.

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  15. Woodswalked says:

    I want to root foe Philips, bur right now Louis Danatas is doing a better job with this title. That explanation is so much better than what I see on the page.

    It must be that I am missing the direction of the Krakoan era, because even legendary and talented writers that I am usually enthisiastic over feel wrong footed right now.

    Thank you Loius Danatas, that interpretation was really nice to read.

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