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Sep 17

X-Men: The Trial of Magneto #2 annotations

Posted on Friday, September 17, 2021 by Paul in Annotations

As always, this post contains spoilers, and page numbers go by the digital edition.

“Welcome to Krakoa”
by Leah Williams, Lucas Werneck & Edgar Delgado

COVER / PAGE 1. Magneto fights the Avengers.

PAGES 2-4. Professor X and Hope try to read Magneto’s mind.

They’re trying to put him at ease, presumably to lower his psychic defences in order to make it possible to scan his memories. Obviously, this is trying to close the potential plot hole of “how can there by a mystery when you can just read the subject’s mind”?

Despite what Hope says, this process is quite plainly not torture. Torture would be extracting a confession by inflicting, or at least threatening, pain and suffering. What Professor X is trying to do here is the exact opposite. That may be an invasion of privacy or an unacceptable violation of the right to silence, but it isn’t torture. In fact, if Hope has ethical problems with this, she should really have problems with most of the telepaths on Krakoa.

PAGES 5-6. The X-Men greet the Avengers.

Strictly speaking, this isn’t actually the newly elected X-Men, but rather Cyclops and Phoenix (who are on the team) and Wolverine (who isn’t). But they’re a natural trio to act as ambassadors to the superhero establishment. It’s also a somewhat retro-classic Avengers group, rather than the current regular line-up: Captain America, Iron Man, the Vision and the Wasp.

Note that Hope asked on page 4 why Jean and Emma hadn’t been asked to help with the psychic search. Xavier claimed that they were both “busy with an urgent matter of diplomacy”, but that seems to be true only of Emma. It also doesn’t really explain why Xavier is turning to the relatively inexperienced Hope in place of, say, one of the Stepford Cuckoos – or indeed Exodus. Is there some reason why he wants to carry out this scan without the rest of the Quiet Council knowing?

The mutants watching from the trees seem to be generics, though one of them is obviously Glob Herman.

Krakoa sure seems to have a lot of fir trees today.

PAGE 7. Recap and credits.

PAGES 8-9. The Avengers receive their tour of Krakoa.

The Avengers’ tour is a callback to the scene in House of X #1 where Magneto gives various ambassadors a tour of Krakoa; the same locations appear.

Wolverine (Logan) has gone, to be replaced by Synch and Wolverine (Laura) from the current X-Men line-up.

The main point of this scene is just to establish that the Krakoans are very sensitive about concealing resurrection.

PAGE 10. X-Factor chronoskim Magneto’s home.

We did see Prestige use this power last issue to view the murder, if you’re wondering, and it’s not exactly clear why that didn’t show us who the killer was.

PAGE 11. A data page, sort of – but without the standard font, and with a mock folded paper effect. Wanda (presumably) tells us about magic as a force that can be used but not ultimately controlled. A similar design of circle and arrows appeared on the final page of the last issue.

PAGE 12. Wanda in limbo.

Last time, we saw Wanda appear in a white costume, get killed by a hooded figure with a knife, and then apparently bleed flower petals. This version adds white wings to the iconography.

PAGE 13. Hope wakes Magneto.

Apparently Hope has decided that the Five are just going to resurrect Wanda anyway, and they want Magneto to cover for them while they do it. Plainly, Wanda’s return at this stage is going to be pretty difficult to explain… but stranger things have happened.

Hope’s decision here is foreshadowed in New Mutants #21, where the Five resurrect Scout without permission (in breach of the rules about clones). Chronologically speaking, both of those stories seem to take place on the day after the Hellfire Gala, so it’s been a busy day of rebellion for Hope. There’s maybe a bit more scope to push Trial of Magneto a little further back, but not by much.

PAGES 14-24. Magneto attacks the Avengers, and the Scarlet Witch returns.

“We met at the Hellfire Gala, actually.” Captain America spoke to Kyle Jinadu – very briefly – in X-Factor #10.

Quicksilver has always been written as protective of his sister; in the Silver Age X-Men stories, that was to an unhealthily obsessive degree, though it was partly a reflection of how feeble Wanda was in her early appearances.

“Shields up, mom!” Rachel isn’t Jean’s daughter, but she is the daughter of Jean’s counterpart from her world. Or possibly Phoenix impersonating Jean. Stories conflict on that.

“Is this what you were doing instead of finally finishing your geophysics degree?” That is indeed Lorna’s established field of study, which she was supposed to be working on after leaving the X-Men in X-Men vol 1 #94. Apparently she finally completed her doctorate while on Krakoa.

“Chain of custody.” It’s not obvious that Krakoa’s rudimentary legal system (if it even merits the term) would care about such things, but chain of custody is the term used for (basically) proving that the evidence you have at the trial is indeed the same stuff that was collected at the crime scene. Needless to say, it’s especially important when it comes to things like forensic samples. It’s not exactly about just protecting the evidence from being destroyed, as Aurora seems to think. But Prodigy’s use of the term is at least consistent with him using it correctly.

“He’s Krakoan!” The question of why exactly Kyle is on Krakoa – and why nobody else is allowed to bring their loved ones with them, or at least chose not to – remains conspicuously unanswered, despite Captain America asking it directly in X-Factor #10. Implicitly, Northstar is claiming here that you can be Krakoan without being a mutant, which Magneto would obviously disagree with.

Magneto wears his Silver Age villain costume here – obviously a conscious decision since he was in black last issue. He’s playing for time, of course, and wants to drag out the fight for as long as he can.

Mystique finds all this “interesting” because her primary motivation is to get her beloved Destiny resurrected. She knows that the Quiet Council voted against resurrecting the Scarlet Witch in the previous issue – she was there. So she can probably connect the dots to figure out that the Five have done this on their own initiative. That opens the door to getting Destiny back without Xavier’s approval.

The Scarlet Witch has been resurrected on the basis of a back-up that was taken back in the days when she was believed to be a mutant. But from the look of her behaviour here, and Vision’s surprised reaction, her memories have been reset to a time when she was still married to the Vision. If so, that’s long, long before she was exposed as a non-mutant, which is weird. Needless to say, it’s going to be very difficult to explain this away without revealing the resurrection system. It would also mean that Wanda doesn’t know about M-Day or about her status as a hate figure on Krakoa.

The fact that Wanda is alive again doesn’t mean that there’s no trial to be had. The title never said it was a murder trial. Magneto could still be tried for attempted murder or simply assault.

PAGE 25. Trailers. The Krakoan reads NEXT: HOW ARE YOU HERE.





Bring on the comments

  1. The Other Michael says:

    Honestly, the whole “are they, aren’t they” mutant status with Wanda and Pietro is ridiculous and hopefully someone will just lay it to rest one way or the other.

    I mean, if they want to say that Wanda’s magic is so strong that a) she basically turned them both into mutants or b) she turned them into not!mutants for… I dunno, reasons? That would be as stupid but story fulfilling as the Franklin Richards retcon.

    I figure Cerebro’s been backing them both up, but Wanda’s backups were either turned off, or outright deleted, out of spite because of her role in M-Day.

    Either way, it’s a mess. Retconning the twins was a stupid and pointless decision in the first place.

  2. Michale says:

    @Chris V- I think that the idea is that if whatever the High Evolutionary did to Wanda and Pietro makes them indistinguishable from mutants, then the resurrection process should work on them as well. For example, Wanda was detected as a mutant by the Sentinels’ mutant detection technology in Avengers 104 and Leech’s mutant-dampening power blocked Pietro’s powers in X-Factor Annual 2. If whatever the High Evolutionary did fools Sentinels’ mutant detection technology, then Cerebro arguably SHOULD detect them as mutants, and therefore record their brainwaves.

  3. Michael says:

    Although the recent The Marvels 4 confused matters about how the Krakoans decide who’s a mutant. The villainess Lotus is causing problems, and Scott notes that even though she fought Beast once, they’re not sure if Lotus is a mutant or an Eternal or something else. How can they not be sure? Is Cerebro recording her brainwaves or isn’t it? Did they offer her amnesty or didn’t they? Shouldn’t they have made a decision on whether she’s a mutant before this point? They seem to have no problem deciding if every other villain they’ve fought is a mutant or not- what makes Lotus so special?

  4. Uncanny X-Ben says:


  5. Allan M says:

    Cerebro recognizes and has alerts for Pietro and Wanda as “known hostile mutants” in the very first appearance of Cerebro, back in X-Men v1 #7. So Cerebro being deceived by the High Evolutionary making them indistinguishable for natural-born mutants tracks, and as noted, it fooled plenty of people in the ensuing years (Ultron and Immortus spring to mind). Even Wyndham is surprised he can’t detect them as mutants anymore, presumably because he didn’t account for chaos magic.

    This being chaos magic, her spell could’ve edited or deleted the Cerebro backups as it edited her own history (as in X of Swords), but one presumes that Moira, if nobody else, would be concerned if Wanda’s files were deleted retroactively.

    We still have three issues to go, but I think Col_Fury’s on the right track that this is either a duplicate Wanda, or at least a mentally edited/reverted one, either of which begs the moral question of who the hell told the X-Men they had any right to decide what the “right” version of Wanda is?

  6. Chris V says:

    Xavier states in the first issue that he still has backup files for Wanda, but that they were years out of date.
    Which implies that Xavier actively stopped recording Wanda and Pietro…presumably when it was revealed that they are no longer mutants.

    However, that wouldn’t explain the records being so many years out of date that Wanda was still with Vision at the time.

  7. Si says:

    Yeah the unmutanting retcon was published in 2015, a year after Young Avengers ended, the comic that introduced her children as teenagers. At absolute best Wanda should be surprised about all those celebrities that died in 2016, but given the sliding timeline it’s more likely she only missed Trump’s first impeachment.

    Vision got Byrned in 1989, at the same time Inferno (the original one) was happening. Her kids were toddlers back then. Though the age of Billy and Tommy really doesn’t match up with the ages of just about anyone else, unless Kree/Skrull marriage consent laws are really lax. So you have at least a full decade of Marvel time between the marriage breakdown and anyone anywhere realising Wanda wasn’t a mutant, probably closer to 14 -15 years. Even with someone maliciously wiping the Cerebro backups, that’s a weird length of time to delete without getting rid of the lot.

    Anyway, all this comes from a dull day at the office, who knows where the story is actually headed?

  8. YLu says:

    James Robinson’s Scarlet Witch established that Tommy and Billy’s souls were sent back in time to be resurrected, explaining how they’re old as they are. So their ages can’t really be used as a yardstick for anything.

    I don’t have much of an issue with the Avengers accidentally being led to Arbor Magna. The mutants aren’t used to thinking of it as off-limits since normally mutants ever set foot in the area, so they unthinkingly wandered in that direction. It’s like when you turn on your webcam for a videochat and only seconds later remember oh shit you’re not properly dressed.

    What puzzles me about it is what they thought Hope could do about it. She’s not telepathic herself, right? She copies others’ powers. And why couldn’t Jean herself just telepathically cloak things?

    Also, something more Avengers continuity savvy tell me: Is the Vision even susceptible to telepathy?

  9. Andrew says:

    The whole Wanda/Pietro aren’t mutants thing is one of the sillier things Marvel did during the post House of M era.

  10. Mark Coale says:

    I’d be all for Wanda being rebooted to even older times: her as a Brotherhood member, her as a member of thr Kooky Quartet, her as the Whizzer’s daughter, …

  11. Luis Dantas says:

    My own head canon is that Cerebro and the ressurrection process can work at least as reliably with “baseline” humans as with any mutant, and ultimately the decision to focus on mutants alone is a matter of policy and nothing else.

    It is very hard not to conclude that this makes Krakoa about as racist a state as one could conceive, but that is how the dice roll.

    Attempting to find a technical reason why either would not work with normal humans is quite a challenge. Even taking into account how far departed from the real world Marvel’s take on “mutancy” is, at the end of the day the one thing that all mutants truly share is that they are variations on humans (or in rare cases, aliens). It is easier to imagine justifications for extending their reach to Inhumans, Eternals, Deviants and Asgardians than to imagine reasons why they could not work on humans.

    I have to assume that Krakoa could ressurrect humans easily if it chose to. The real limitations are the same that apply for mutants: availability of Cerebro recordings, of alien crystals to store those recordings, and of slots in the Five’s schedule.

  12. Michael says:

    @YLu- It Depends on the Writer (and probably, on the telepath). For example, in Avengers 211, Moondragon is able to telepathically prevent Vision from attacking her. But in Avengers 355, the Avengers are facing an opponent who’s able to mentally convince people that she’s just a harmless old lady, and it works on Black Widow but not Vision. The most likely explanation is that the Vision is more resistant to telepathy than a normal human but a sufficiently skilled and/or powerful telepath can overcome his resistance.

  13. Aaron Elijah Thall says:

    If they did in fact bring back Wanda but without a lot of the later baggage, that might be for the best. All the stuff from Avengers Disassembled going forward was making her a very difficult character to use at all.

    Plus there’s some interesting things to be done with someone waking up to the news they did horrible things while still being a pure hero.

  14. Chris V says:

    Aaron-The recent Scarlet Witch solo series by James Robinson was a really good series.
    I’m not opposed to the idea of taking Wanda back to before House of M.
    I’m just saying that any character can be made to work if the writer is talented enough or if the creators have a strong creative direction for the character.
    Granted, that is a rare occurrence.

    There’s nothing that would make Wanda any more of an unworkable character than Tony Stark or Carol Danvers with the poor decisions Marvel had made with those characters since the 2000s either.
    The obvious course-correct for Marvel is to just ignore the fact that they basically ruined the characters as heroes.
    The same can easily be done with Wanda, except that Hickman chose to use M-Day as his jumping-off point for Xavier to accept Moira’s dream.
    Which was a bizarre decision on Hickman’s part as the symbolic act to rally mutants against human persecution.

  15. Aaron Elijah Thall says:

    Yeah, the big problem is that there’s too few writers right now that can actually USE the continuity well.

    Look at how they decided to undo the Spidey/MJ marriage just because they couldn’t make a married Peter interesting. A GOOD writer could have made it amazing. Pun intended.

    I really don’t get it. Some characters like Reed and Sue Richards, or Carol Danvers, are allowed to grow and chance and others they keep resetting because god forbid they change.

    Granted, in this case I’m all for rebooting her a bit simply because it’s pretty hard to come back from nearly annihilating an entire ethnicity and killing some of your friends. Having that baggage still happen but her back to a point where for her it never happened should at least open the door for redemption and getting her back onto the Avengers long term. Plus it’ll be hella interesting to see how characters like Vision and Wonder Man react to this.

  16. Omar Karindu says:

    @Michael: @YLu- It Depends on the Writer (and probably, on the telepath). For example, in Avengers 211, Moondragon is able to telepathically prevent Vision from attacking her. But in Avengers 355, the Avengers are facing an opponent who’s able to mentally convince people that she’s just a harmless old lady, and it works on Black Widow but not Vision. The most likely explanation is that the Vision is more resistant to telepathy than a normal human but a sufficiently skilled and/or powerful telepath can overcome his resistance.

    I think that is the kludge we’d have to use. There’s even a tangentially X-Men-related example, in which the Savage Land Mutate Lorelei’s song, which psychically enthralls cis males, fails to work on the Vision back in Avengers (1963 series) #105, leading to an issue or two of angsting about his “inhumanity” on his part.

    Come to think of it, the Vision’s an intriguing character in terms of HoX/PoX and their insistence that AIs are the biggest threat to the mutants over time Wanda’s not just a fake mutant who caused M-Day, she’s a fake mutant who caused M-Day and married an AI!

  17. Si says:

    By the way, it’s nice to have that cover image of Magneto just yanking Iron Man’s armour off. Every fight they’ve ever had should end seconds later with Stark sitting in his undies on the floor, saying “well that’s my usefulness gone.”

  18. Luis Dantas says:

    That is selling Iron Man quite low, @Si.

    Tony is resourceful and most metals aren’t even ferromagnetic. If anything, it is questionable writing to have him so vulnerable when he has every reason to want to prepare for Magneto.

    Incidentally, when Claremont wrote New Mutants #40 it turned out that Captain America’s shield was not subject to Magneto’s powers.

    I don’t think that is consistent with other situations. For instance, IIRC Nick Fury used a magnetic device to change the course of the shield in Strange Tales #159.

    But that is probably par the course; it would be boring if there was never any doubt that Magneto can control everything even vaguely metalic on sight, or that the shield can never be dodged or thrown off course.

    Or maybe Captain America simply has a separate, non-magnetic shield for situations such as those. It would make a lot of sense.

  19. Mark Coale says:

    It could also depend when the story was and which shield Cap had at the time.

    I don’t think he has always had THE vibranium/adamantium SHIELD. Remember when Waid had him lose it at the bottom of the ocean and he ended up with an energy shield? (Eyeroll)

  20. Michael says:

    In Captain America 261, where Steve definitely had the vibranium/adamantium shield, one of the Red Skull’s agents uses a magnetic device to throw the shield off course. It doesn’t makes sense that Magento can’t effect the shield but a normal magnetic device the Skull has access to can.

  21. Si says:

    The thing is, *everything* is magnetic with enough force, and there’s nothing that can protect from it. And Magneto has been shown to have easily enough power to throw any metal around, and sometimes non-metals too.

    But Magneto’s powers have never had much to do with science, so lets look at it another way. Magneto had epic fights with Wolverine, who has a ferrous skeleton, Colossus, who has a ferrous body, and Cyclops, who has ferrous goggles. Chris Claremont never had to resort to Wolverine demagnetising his claws to make the action flow, in fact he used the weakness as a plot point. What’s the harm in having Iron Man do a Hawkeye and sit helplessly on the sidelines for once?

  22. Si says:

    The other thing about Magneto is that iron is everywhere. run a fridge magnet across a patch of dry dirt and you’ll almost certainly get a bunch of grains of iron. If Magneto found he couldn’t control Captain America’s shield, it would take about two seconds to grab a bunch of dirt to coat the shield, and hey presto, total control. Granted, in that two seconds the shield may have already caromed off his forehead, but he has a helmet at least.

    By the way, in the early days of Marvel, Captain America actually had magnets on his wrist to control his shield. At least for a little while.

  23. Taibak says:

    The real issue is that Magneto has been shown as powerful enough to manipulate people’s blood, simply because it contains iron. Why even bother fighting if he can just make everyone within 50 meters pass out or, if he’s feeling particularly brutal, give them all fatal strokes?

  24. Jon R says:

    Looking up the old map, Arbor Magna is pretty much at the center of all the main places. And as far as the times when resurrected mutants have been presented to the crowd, there’s a lot of space around it and it’s the defining ‘stage’ in that area. Effectively the thing they want to hide is the big building surrounded by a semi-clearing in the town square. I can get that trying to completely avoid seeing it while giving a tour would make it obvious you’re avoiding something, and maybe right now the tour party wants to look entirely welcoming in the middle of a delicate situation.

    Counter-argument, it’s probably easier to walk past Arbor Magna and just say that’s where you do some government business and make public proclamations from. It’s not even a lie and doesn’t have to be as blatant as leading people in a circle around the area.

  25. Si says:

    I have the feeling the “control the iron in peoples’ blood” thing is down to misunderstanding the prison break scene in the second X-Men movie.

  26. neutrino says:

    The Five could be reasoning that Wanda conjuring up twins was the beginning of her mental problems, so the best way to get a stable version of her would be to use a backup from before then.

  27. Michael says:

    @neutrino- In fact, it’s possible the Five discussed doing something similar with Maddie after Havok kept asking them to bring back Maddie.

  28. miyamoris says:

    @Si: I think that goes back to the Fatal Attractions event in the 90s, when Magneto breaks into Illyana’s funeral and freezes everyone in place thanks to the iron in their blood.

  29. Joe Iglesias says:

    Magneto controlling the iron in people’s blood [a href=“”%5Dgoes back to the ‘70s at least[/a].

  30. Luis Dantas says:

    Was it Paul who said some time ago that Magneto might as well be telekinetic for all practical purposes given how his powers are portrayed most of the time?

    I have to agree.

    In any case, his ability to control blood iron, illogical as it is, has precedent both in Avengers #111 (as Joe Iglesias just pointed out) and in DC’s Legion of Super-Heroes #297 (1983), where Cosmic Boy reveals that he has the same ability.

  31. Si says:

    Well there you go.

  32. Allan M says:

    I have a soft spot for truly dumb uses of Magneto’s powers, and so I love Uncanny v1 #18 in which Magneto a) hypnotizes Angel’s parents using “magnetic attraction” and one eye glowing green, and b) somehow using magnetism to close a hole in a dome made entirely of ice. Metal, ice, same difference.

    Bonus: when Warren’s parents arrive at the Mansion and ask who Magneto is, he says: “I? I am power! Men call me — Magneto! And now… COME IN!!” So polite.

  33. Daniel says:

    Silver age Magneto was a bit of a ham, putting it mildlly. Didn’t X-men V2 try to explain that when he used his powers too much he went kind of apeshit?

  34. Chris V says:

    It was in the Classic X-Men back-up strips by Claremont.
    It was explained that when Magneto used his powers it interfered with his brain causing him severe bipolar disorder.
    It was how Claremont explained the discrepancy between Silver Age ranting loony Magneto and his own version of Magneto, and was also used as part of the plot with Magneto reforming.

    In X-Men’s (vol. 2) first story-arc, also by Claremont, Magneto discovers that Moira tampered with Magneto’s genetics while he was deaged by Alpha The Ultimate Mutant, so that his powers no longer interfered with the working of his brain.
    Magneto felt this was a violation of his rights and it led to him distrusting Xavier.

  35. Krzysiek Ceran says:

    Didn’t that same story also suggest that whatever Moira did didn’t actually work long-term?

  36. Chris V says:

    It seems to be the case, considering the idea that Magneto was back to being somewhat of a villain in X-Men #1-3.
    I think the implication given by Claremont was that it only worked for a short period and that Magneto becoming headmaster at Xavier’s was his own decision.
    So that Claremont’s depiction of Magneto wasn’t solely due to Moira influencing him. Magneto has the ability to change if he tried.

  37. Daniel says:

    @Chris V

    Wasn’t it also explained that Moira’s tampering was nullified after he used his powers again for the first time?

    And then we have Fatal Attractions Magneto. And Eve of Destruction Magneto. Guy had a rough few years there. I’ll be honest, though, I kind of miss him as a villain and I’m not sure if, or how, he could ever be one again.

  38. wwk5d says:

    “Didn’t that same story also suggest that whatever Moira did didn’t actually work long-term?”

    “I think the implication given by Claremont was that it only worked for a short period and that Magneto becoming headmaster at Xavier’s was his own decision.
    So that Claremont’s depiction of Magneto wasn’t solely due to Moira influencing him. Magneto has the ability to change if he tried.”

    “Wasn’t it also explained that Moira’s tampering was nullified after he used his powers again for the first time?”

    Yeah, many people seem to forget about that part of the story.

    But the way Lobdell wrote him in uncanny #304 was still total crap anyway.

  39. Daly says:

    I loved the art of Mags posing like some of his silver age craziness. That was def throwbacks – same as the brotherhood reunion. Foretelling ?

  40. Claus says:

    “Honestly, the whole “are they, aren’t they” mutant status with Wanda and Pietro is ridiculous and hopefully someone will just lay it to rest one way or the other.”

    I fear they have done so, but sadly in the wrong way.

    “Either way, it’s a mess. Retconning the twins was a stupid and pointless decision in the first place.”

    Agreed. But I don’t see how they could undo the retcon without causing even more mess.

    On a more upbeat note: Kudos to the writers for mentioning Lorna’s training in geophysics. If they are aware of such details, it means they have done their homework on a character (see also: She-who-swam-with-Acanti).

  41. Si says:

    Mind you, if the High Evolutionary was going to mess with a person’s genetics, he almost certainly would look to “the next step in human evolution” for inspiration and maybe even parts.

    What if … Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch have powers because they have an artificially introduced X-gene. Making them not mutants exactly, but identical to mutants for all intents and purposes. And what if … that X-gene was harvested from Magneto? If Mr Sinister can do it, High Evolutionary can.

  42. Col_Fury says:

    re: Claus

    In the recent-ish Scarlet Witch series we met Wanda & Pietro’s mother, who was a previous Scarlet Witch. Their father remains a mystery.

    I’m quietly hoping the big reveal at the end of Trial of Magneto is that their father is… MAGNETO! 🙂

    At this point the only thing that can’t be undone is that Magda is Wanda & Pietro’s mother. Hell, if Lorna was a “latent mutant” why can’t Wanda & Pietro be as well? The High Evolutionary would have just unlocked their latent-ness, right? And in theory, that would make all of Magneto’s children latent mutants.

    I wonder what the High Evolutionary did with Magda’s twins in the 1950s… They were probably latent mutants, after all. 😉

  43. Col_Fury says:

    I mean, the only reason they retconned Wanda & Pietro’s parentage was because of movie rights and all that nonsense. Now that that’s all been straightened out, why not reverse the retcon?

  44. Luis Dantas says:

    @Daniel: the way I see it, Magneto has never _not_ been a villain. It just happens that he tries real hard to convince himself otherwise and sometimes the X-Men believe him for, frankly, no clear reason.

    I for one wonder whether the X-Men will ever be clearly heroes again instead. They have lost a lot of their good will capital over the years, what with creating so many versions of X-Force and engaging in so many shadow ops and deception.

    The retcon about Moira affecting Magneto’s mind (which, btw, is a very ill fit to this Hickman set-up) was, far as I can figure it out, meant to leave things purposefully vague and open to both interpretation and sudden change. It enabled pretty much any take on Magneto’s character and his own responsibility for it.

  45. Chris V says:

    Hickman has worked the Magneto ret-con in to his plotting.

    I think it works because Moira needed Xavier and Magneto working together for her goals. The two of them continued to be driven by their own ideologies and seemed like they would never agree to work together.
    Magneto was too arrogant to believe he needed Moira or Xavier, telling them that he could accomplish the goal of creating a future for mutants without Moira’s help.
    Finally, Moira takes the opportunity to meddle with Magneto’s brain in order to force Magneto to form an alliance with Xavier again.

    Magneto figures out what Moira did and no longer trusts Xavier.
    Moira writes in her journal that she messed up and regrets the fact that she may have ruined Magneto ever again taking up Xavier and Moira’s plan.

    It also works well with Hickman’s ret-con that Moira is manipulative and amoral, willing to violate the rights of others in the name of what she believes is right.

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