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The X-Axis – 2 September 2012

Posted on Sunday, September 2, 2012 by Paul in x-axis

More catch-up, more new books…

AvX: Versus #5 – Considering that it literally is just a bunch of fight scenes – and you can’t accuse Marvel of false advertising on that one – it’s remarkable that this book has sold as well as it has.  I can only assume that the upcoming anthology A+X is the result of somebody lobbying to keep the book around.  In a way, this makes sense.

Of course, the problem is that AvX: Versus mostly hovers somewhere between tedious and utterly pointless, because writing a remotely interesting story based entirely on a fight scene is not easy, and frankly, pure undiluted action sequences don’t play to the strengths of a lot of these creators.  I’m reminded somewhat of the “Nuff Said” month from a few years back, where creators were asked to do entirely silent issues for a month.  Gimmicky as it was, the limitations should have been an interesting creative challenge.  For the most part, the results showed that the creators were simply defeated by them.  AvX: Versus has had much the same problem.

This issue’s first story – Hawkeye versus Angel, by Matt Fraction and Leinil Francis Yu – is an utter misfire.  It’s not very interesting as a fight scene to start with, but the major problem is that nobody seems to have told Fraction or his editor anything about the Angel’s current status.  Understandably looking for some sort of hook to hang the thing on, Fraction opts for class war.  If you’ve got to come up with some sort of personal friction between these two, that’s not a bad idea.

Except it doesn’t work at all with the current version of Angel, who had his entirely personality wiped a year or so back, and is now a naive amnesiac who thinks he’s a real angel.  Fraction is either utterly unaware of that storyline, or he simply ignores it.  And that doesn’t work.  It’s not just a current plot in another book; it’s his entire status quo.  The script should simply have been bounced.

Jason Aaron and Tom Raney have something more interesting to work with, in the Black Panther and Storm.  I’ve never regarded the marriage of those characters as anything other than a heavy-handed exercise in pairing up African characters, because hey, if you come from the same continent, you must have a tremendous amount in common, right?  It’s not quite clear yet whether their break-up in Avengers vs X-Men is being viewed as a set-up for a later story, or whether the crossover is simply being used as an opportunity to bury a bad idea.  But it was given enough publicity that it does deserve some kind of proper send-off, and this story kind of attempts to do that, or at least to sell us on the idea that their divorce is sad.

It’s not really successful; much like the marriage itself, there’s a sense that this is happening merely because somebody has decided it should, not because it emerges in any sort of organic way from the characters.  But Aaron does his best with it.  As for the art, extended fight scenes aren’t really Tom Raney’s best area, and some of this story looks downright awkward.

Gambit #1-2 – This launched while I was on holiday, so let’s cover both issues now.  James Asmus and Clay Mann are the creative team for this latest attempt at a Gambit series.  Although he’s not been used much in the X-Men titles lately, Gambit remains a character who ought in theory to be well suited to a solo book.  As a thief, he’s got plenty of opportunities to go off and do his own thing separate from the other X-Men, and when written correctly, he’s got the charisma to work as a solo lead.  In practice, though, he’s never sustained his own series for more than two years.  Perhaps that just means the formula is still to be properly worked out.

These first two issues make unambiguously clear that this book puts the focus on Gambit’s thievery capers, a part of his life that he understandably keeps separate from the X-Men – in part for plausible deniability, in part because they wouldn’t approve.  Of course, since Gambit is a hero, the story has to give him the Robin Hood defence of only robbing bad guys – but it doesn’t shy away from the fact that Gambit is doing this mainly because he’s a kleptomaniac.

More boldly, the book steers clear of any established Marvel Universe characters.  The main villain is a criminal collector we’ve never seen before; the main supporting character is a mysterious woman who keeps crossing Gambit’s path and won’t identify herself.  By the flexible standards of the Marvel Universe, it’s a relatively grounded book – there’s ridiculous high-tech floating around, but it’s mostly being pursued by people who seem relatively normal.  I think that’s necessary if you’re going to do Gambit as a thief; that sort of caper story works best when it’s got some degree of grounding the real world.

Mann’s art is always nice and clean, and he does good action sequences that help to get across the heist scenes.  It’s a solidly above average Gambit series, and one with the potential to go further.  That said, the market is saturated with X-books, it’s been a while since Gambit was pushed as a big deal, and I’m not sure this has the stand-out hook that it may need to find an audience these days.  But fans who do check it out are likely to be pretty satisfied by it.

New Mutants #47-48 – The first two parts of “Fight the Future”, which is essentially just a continuation of the previous storyline.  In fact, it’s quite blatantly the second half of the previous storyline, so why it’s being billed as a separate arc, I don’t understand.

Cypher has learned that in the future (well, one possible future, but for present purposes, the future), he becomes a well-meaning world-conquering bad guys.  He’s not very happy about that thought, and the rest of the group are trying to be supportive while obviously wondering whether his reaction has set him on the road to making this a self-fulfilling prophecy.  It also turns out that the group haven’t actually got back to their own present day at all; the previous issues have screwed up the timeline so that they’re now in a world which broadly resembles the regular Marvel Universe, but on closer inspection turns out to have all sorts of little discrepancies.

I like the basic idea of Cypher’s reaction, which seems to go a long way towards humanising a character who was in danger of becoming a power demo.  The rest of the cast’s response to him is nicely played as well.  There’s also a nice angle with the New Mutants having to try and dry out the local version of Dr Strange before they can enlist his help.  And I really do like the art from Felix Ruiz, whose work on these issues seems to be influenced by Bill Sienkiewicz’s art on the original series – no bad thing.

On the other hand, issue #48 rather deteriorates into characters wandering around and things happening rather arbitrarily.  When the Hellions show up – apparently picking up from their zombie appearance from the “X-Necrosha” storyline – there really doesn’t seem to be any particular reason to it, despite a few pages of foreshadowing.

But a decent enough concept overall, and it looks good.

X-Force #28-30 – Wow, they’re churning this book out, aren’t they?  Three issues since the last time I wrote about it.

“Final Execution” hasn’t been my favourite storyline; the Brotherhood haven’t particularly grabbed me as villains, since they’ve been positioned as just a bunch of villains teaming up for revenge, which is all a bit familiar.  Using Daken doesn’t inspire me much either, as the character was given a reasonable send-off at the end of his own series that played cleverly off his own dubious reception – he was probably best left there.

But issues #28-29 are very good issues, with the remaining members of X-Force taking refuge in the future and discovering a timeline where they’re running the show and cheerfully killing criminals before they can do anything.  It’s the old Minority Report idea, but it works rather well in this story by positioning it as the logical extension of what the title characters are already doing.  Aside from giving the characters something to think about, it also subverts the book’s own portrayal of the black ops squad as basically the good guys.  This builds to Psylocke trying to kill herself in order to avert the timeline, and some of the cast pushing back against the moral argument the story is facing them with.  Ultimately the future X-Force appear to win the argument – as they point out, “we’re still here, aren’t we?”  This is the sort of thing that makes Remender’s take on an old idea more interesting; we’ve all seen this premise before, but Remender is pushing the other side of the argument.

Issue #30, meanwhile, picks up on Evan/Genesis, who’s being held prisoner by the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants.  As near as I can figure out, the idea is that they’re trying to provoke him into being Apocalypse again, in order to… well, prove some kind of point.  That sort of fits in with Daken’s established interest in trying to reject what he sees as the artificial distinction between hero and villain, and some of the scenes are well written from Evan’s standpoint.  I’m still not feeling the bad guys, though, who seem to be just pushing the story where it needs to go.

The art – from Julian Totino Tedesco and Dave Williams – remains consistently excellent.  Marvel are doing a great job of choosing artists for this book whose work isn’t just interesting, but also gives the title a degree of grace and beauty that plays nicely against the darkness of the story.  It’s not just good art to look at, it’s got a tone that brings another dimension to the book.

Wolverine and the X-Men #15 – One of those crossover issues where a bunch of people have little character scenes against the background of the event, but they don’t actually add up to a story for this book.  Still, there are good moments in here, in the individual scenes.  Wolverine’s back in charge at the school, and most of the saner X-Men are now living there too – this issue at least finally makes something of the reintegration, which has been egregiously missing from most of the X-titles hitherto.  Xavier’s back, and gets a little of his old authority (or at least respect) as well.  Kitty and Iceman’s subplot is nudged forward, as is Husk and Toad’s, and Kid Gladiator’s, and Warbird’s.  And Angel’s.

In fact, there’s a lot being done to keep the book’s ongoing stories moving, which is nice to see in the midst of a crossover. But it remains essentially a bunch of unrelated scenes rather than a cohesive story, and artist Jorge Molina – while perfectly adequate – isn’t the most memorable artist the book has had.  It does the job.

X-Treme X-Men #2 – Oh crikey.  The first issue of this Exiles relaunch didn’t strike me as too bad, but this is a bit of a mess.  The X-Men have arrived on a world where the local “gods” are a bunch of X-Men who seem to be mad and evil.  Dazzler wants to fight back, Emma and Xavier want to play along and not get killed.

It’s not very good.  The bad guys are totally one-dimensional, there’s a disproportionate focus on Dazzler in what’s meant to be a team book, and some of the art in the closing five pages is really downright bad.  (Page 16 panel 1 boasts a clumsy rendering of Sabretooth and a Dazzler who appears to have suffered several fatal bone fractures.)  There are some quite amusing bits of dialogue, but the story as a whole is distinctly heavy handed.  Disappointing, really.

Bring on the comments

  1. Paul F says:

    I hope the quality of art on UXF can be kept up now that Dean White is off of colors. He really helped the book keep a consistent tone despite the many artist changes.

    Are Marvel cutting down on page count again? This week’s Captain Marvel had a 16-page main story, with a 2-page backup and a 1-page gag strip. So 19 pages in total.

  2. B Lau says:

    Oh yeah, I remember “Nuff Said”. That was around the time I started reading comics and I had thought that that was a permanent thing and that’s how comics were done now and it discouraged me from reading Marvel stuff for a while (I was a bit naive back then), so…good move there, Marvel.

  3. ZZZ says:

    Rest assured, plenty of long time readers were discouraged by ‘Nuff Said Month too.

  4. Zoomy says:

    The best part about Nuff Said “Month” was that it really highlighted which comics were running late at the time. Didn’t one of the X-Men tie-ins come out about three months after the month it was supposed to?

  5. Dave says:

    AvX: Versus has seemed a bit pointless (well, even moreso) the last couple of issues. Because Hawkeye/Angel and #4’s fights don’t happen in the main series, and were by no means crying out to be seen. At the same time, fights I did want to see more of, that are relevant to the plot – like Thor being taken down by Colossus – get one panel in the main series and aren’t expanded on. It feels like Marvel either lost interest or changed the main idea of the title halfway through. Seems like they put higher-profile artists on the first 3 issues, too.
    I also get no sense from #5 of when in the crossover it’s supposed to be, whereas the first 3 issues tell you on the intro pages.

    Why did Emma beat Thor in issue 4 and just leave him, only for Colossus to then beat him and take him prisoner?

  6. kingderella says:

    the new blobs nipple piercings really gross me out. seriously, ew. i dont have a problem with nipple piercings as such… im gay, i see my share of pierced nipples every weekend. im fine with that. but man, this new blob scars my mind whenever i look at him. i guess what im trying to say is, its an effective character design for a villain.

    i wish theyd use mystique in more interesting ways. so far, its not looking very promising on that front. i hope this arc isnt going to do damage to her character… she one of the few villains i care about.

    wolverine and psylocke? i can totally see that working.

  7. Odessasteps says:

    Given the way w&txm seemed to be wrapping up plots, i was surprised to be told that it was notmbe canceled and rebooted in marvel NOW!

  8. Si says:

    I read the latest New Mutants last night. Admittedly I was in bed and almost asleep, but the comic made no sense to me. As Paul says, stuff just happens. I kept wondering if there were events from the previous issue that I’d forgotten. Also the art and colouring don’t work on a tablet device. I’m not a fan of scratchy lines or muddy colours anyway, but on a lit screen where bold colours and sharp lines really pop, the lack of these things was accentuated.

  9. Si says:

    Also, you can’t fake-out a death if the character in question is now a regular cast member of a different comic.

  10. Matt C. says:

    As I said in a previous thread, I really loved the “Minority Report future” issues of UFX. Kinda disappointed it was just a quick detour instead of a full storyline, because the new Brotherhood is pretty boring. Mystique, Blob, Daken, Shadow King, Sabretooth, Omega Clan… all fairly blandly-written here. As for Paul’s question as to what they’re using Evan for, seemed pretty clear they see him as a way to rule the world. How dastardly!

    Getting some weird pairing recently. Wolverine/Psylocke? I suppose it could work, given time and with the two of them continuing their black ops style, and once Psylocke grew out of her attraction to suave, thrill-seeker characters like Angel and Fantomex. Husk/Toad? That one I’m not buying.

  11. Dr. Bloodmoney says:

    It might just be me, but lately it feels Marvel is going to the Dystopian Future Well (and its bastard offshoot, Dystopian Alternate Timeline Full of Familiar Faces in Toyetic New Costumes) wayyyyy too often. Cypher in New Mutants, Deathlok, Age of Apocalypse, X-Factor, X-Treme X-Men, Thunderbolts and, of course, X-Force – two evil/corrupt versions of Wolverine in less than a year! Is the Time Variance Authority really that incompetent?

  12. Tdubs says:

    To expand on Hush/Toad. I recall some lines being in conversation about her powers changing or going out if control? It was changing her looks or scaring her and this is leading to the toad thing? Do I remember this right?

  13. Dr. Bloodmoney says:

    (By which I mean of course, that I for one did not enjoy X-Force’s rather pointless detour to yet another unrealistic, grim ‘n’ gritty future timeline AT ALL.)

  14. Shadowkurt says:

    Dave:
    Both fights from Vs. #5 must have happened during the time the teams were chasing around the globe in search of Hope. In one of the early issues of the main book we got glimpses of them. Which means both happened before the Phoenix Five were empowered, and therefore before the Thor/Emma fight from Vs. #4.

    That aside, I think there is a tremendous amount of non-cooperation between the different books. Fraction being unaware of Angel’s status quo is most egregious, but it’s just the tip of the iceberg. I’m quite sure that Aaron (AvX #9) and Andrews (Vs. #4) were not on the same page about who captured Thor (Emma or Colossus); and when Storm learns in AvX #9 (written by Jason Aaron) that T’Challa has divorced her, she seems to have forgotten that she all but broke off the marriage herself in Vs. #5 (written by Jason Aaron…).

  15. kingderella says:

    not buying husk & toad either. its generally a bit of a problem in W&tXM (which i otherwise enjoy) that characters serve as comic relief one second and the next were supposed to be taking them seriously. it doesnt always work.

    genesis & no girl? thats cute.

    oya & broo… please no.

    kitty & bobby… why not. she needs make-up lessons.

    i like the art on new mutants a lot, but there is one hilarious panel, where the team is preparing to defend themselves from some demons, but dani appears to be performing expressionist dance.

    blink needs to get a new costume really badly.

  16. Tim O'Neil says:

    I was confused by the fact that Angel shot out some of his old wing knives, which I was pretty sure were a thing of the past since he was completely cleansed of Apocalypse’s influence. Makes sense only if we believe Fraction just doesn’t read other people’s comics.

    How much of these problem would be fixed if Marvel just went back to providing comp copies of their line to freelancers? I think they still don’t do that.

  17. Rich Larson says:

    My nine year old read VS #5. His first comment was. “That makes no sense , when did Angel start acting like that again.” If you can’t sell a nine year old on a big slam bang fight scene, I think you need to acknowledge you’re doing something really wrong.

  18. Matt C. says:

    Tim: They’ve been drawing Angel with metal wings in WAXTM. Quite confusing, since I’m pretty sure he had normal wings after he got mind-wiped/reborn/whatever in UXF, but there ya go.

  19. Tim O'Neil says:

    See, I’ve been reading WATXM but I didn’t remember the metal wings part. It doesn’t really seem to go along with his new, innocent lease on life.

  20. ZZZ says:

    They’re really hit-or-miss on how well the art gets across the metal wings in pretty much every book Angel appears in, but his entry on the recap page in WatXM always says “Metal-Winged Student” (let’s see if they remember to change it to “Metal-Winged Graduate Assistant” from now on).

  21. Jack says:

    I’m sure this has been asked thousand of times before, but what do editors actually DO at Marvel nowadays? It’s blatantly obvious that they see linewide continuity as utterly passé, something quaint that only the geekest of the fanboys care about… So what do they actually spend their time on? Surely giving variations of the same interview to keep the hype machine can’t keep a man occupied all day.

  22. Suzene says:

    re: WATXM – Wacky is all well and good in its place, but the tonal shifts of this book are enough to give a reader whiplash. Wasn’t it just last issue that WATXM was showing us how bad it is to have an obsessive, emotionally immature guy stalking you, but now we’re supposed to treat Husk and Toad as sweet and/or funny when he’s been mooning over her to the point of holding tea parties for her shed skins? I’m not even going to bother talking about the character regression — Jason Aaron’s grasp of established characterization is weak at best and this is more of the same. No thanks.

  23. Dan Coyle says:

    Send their freelancers comps? That would cost money!

  24. wwk5d says:

    “Jason Aaron’s grasp of established characterization is weak at best and this is more of the same. No thanks.”

    Yup. His stories might be wacky, zany, and fun…just shut your brain off before you start reading. In all fairness…lots of writers these days seem to be clueless when it comes to the history of the characters.

    “The first issue of this Exiles relaunch”

    Because if fandom was clamoring for anything, it was this. I love me some b-list characters like Dazzler, but there has to be a better way to incorporate her into the franchise.

  25. Will says:

    Husk and Toad makes a kind of sense if you squint — she’s got a history of being attracted to horribly deformed Englishmen.

    Plus, she always struck me as the kind of person who thinks Edward Cullen is a romantic icon, so Toad’s creepy behaviour wouldn’t necessarily put her off.

  26. NB says:

    @Dave: I guess the AvX Vs is also used to “market” some characters.

    Hence Fraction – who’s writing Hawkeye’s solo book – gets to show him off against Angel. Doesn’t really matter which Angel, hence the piss-poor continuity.

  27. Niall says:

    The Hawkeye-Angel fight scene requires a no-prize explanation. My effort: The scene happened during Hawkeye’s detention in Utopia when Danger kept the Avengers in a virtual reality.

    Btw, was it ever explained why the X-Men moved the Avengers from the X-brig to the Limbo volcano?

  28. kingderella says:

    perhaps the limbo volcano is just a x-brig simulation… which is just a limbo illusion… which is just a simulation… which is just an illusion… (i think only the most powerful avengers are dumped into limbo).

    post-apocalyptic angel has metal wings. in his last appearances on x-force, hes drawn in a way that could be interpreted either way. but since joining the cast of W&tXM, hes always had metal wings. it makes little sense to me, and i dont understand the thinking behind it… wouldnt this have been a good moment for a continuity-wipe?

    oh, and didnt he have healing blood or something? are we pretending that never happened? i hated that development, but major continuity violations always bug me nontheless.

  29. Thrills says:

    Ah yes, the healing blood! And Chuck Austen’s explanation that ‘mutants can’t get HIV’ or something. To try and make ‘healing blood’ seem less ridiculous.

    Ah, the old days, when I’d buy a comic just because some members of Generation X were in it…

  30. ZZZ says:

    @Niall: They never said exactly when the prisoners were moved (or, as far as I know, acknowledged the fact that the Avengers were shown being held in two different places in any way in-story) and I’d wager (and I could be wrong) it’s yet another example of everyone not being on the same page in this crossover, and it makes the “Avengers escape from virtual reality prison” story annoyingly pointless, but, that said, I really don’t think it’s a continuity error per se (that is, it makes sense, though possibly more by happenstance than design).

    The Avengers were being held on Utopia by Danger because that’s what the X-Men did with all of their prisoners up to that point. At some point, Phoenix-Magik got the idea to make a special Limbo prison for the Avengers, so she did. Magik said “my new prison is better than the old one; let’s move all the prisoners into it.” The other Pheonixes agreed that a Phoenix-made prison could only be superior to a machine-made on, and the X-Men (not knowing the exact nature of Magik’s prison) fell in line as they always had.

    (By the way, in the story with Hawkeye, Luke Cage, and Spider-Woman in Danger’s virtual prison, did they ever explain how the Avengers didn’t remember that they’d been doing it over and over? How was Danger wiping their memories of their previous “escape attempts”?)

  31. alex says:

    “Send their freelancers comps? That would cost money!”

    digital copies/PDF?

  32. Andrew says:

    The way I remember Nuff Said month, X-force and New X-men both came out about a month after the rest. The New X-men one was worth the wait though (we got Frank Quitely art as opposed to the previous two issues which were rushed out with Igor Kordey in about two weeks flat).

    Uncanny X-men’s silent issue was a gigantic fucking trainwreck.

    God I miss the X-books of 2001-2002. Wildly uneven but a Great era. It felt ambitious.

  33. Piercey says:

    This talk of Austen just reminded me- has there been any mention of Husk and Angel’s previous relationship in WatXM? Seems an obvious potential plot to me, especially as he seems younger now and the most obvious counterpart to Toad.

  34. Charles Knight says:

    I like Storm as a character and as written she’s a competent hand-to-hand fighter but against the Black Panther? and she beats him?

  35. wwk5d says:

    Yeah, logically, Storm should’ve kicked his ass using her weather powers.

  36. LeoCrow says:

    Andrew says:
    September 3, 2012 at 3:48 PM
    […]The New X-men one was worth the wait though (we got Frank Quitely art as opposed to the previous two issues which were rushed out with Igor Kordey in about two weeks flat).[…]

    I actually liked Kordey’s art more than Quitely’s at the time and I wished they would give him a full time book. He was fast and good in my eyes.

    As for Paul’s comment about having a disproportionate amount of focus in X-Treme, I would assume she is the point of view character, we are supposed to identify with her and see things from her perspective since we pretty much know as much as she does about everyone and everything. The problem is that she isn’t written as a likable character, or one we can easily relate to. After having read the first two issues, i don’t feel like I want to read on, despite the fact that I find the premise interesting and one that has potential

  37. ZZZ says:

    @wwk5d – The conceit of the issue is that T’Challa has all manner of high-tech protocols in place to counter her weather powers – there’s some unconvincing technobabble and frankly they would have been better served by just saying “Wakandan weather-control device” instead of trying to explain it – that are far-fetched even by comic book standards and seem to ignore that she can do small-scale stuff as well as large-scale (even if we accept that his “nanotech phytoplankton” can stop her from pulling in storm systems from the ocean, are we really to believe that they can stop individual gusts of wind? And if so, why can she still fly?) but at least it’s in line with the “Black Panther as the Marvel U’s Batman” characterization he’s had in recent years and introduces a legitimately interesting note to the relationship (from her point of view: “How dare you install anti-weather control devices? I’m your wife!” From his: “Once I meet someone who can control weather, how can I not be prepared to counter it?”).

    So she has to fight him hand-to-hand, at which point, as Charles Knight says, it changes from being silly that she doesn’t just blow him away to silly that she lasts more than two panels (to be fair, she’s punching and kicking him while he’s simply blocking and trying to restrain her – can’t have a superhero hit his wife but it’s fine for a superheroine to hit her husband – but it’s still like watching Captain America be unable to get the Scarlet Witch in a headlock).

  38. Si says:

    The best thing about the Nuff Said issue of New X-Men is that they cheated. “Oh no that’s not speech, that’s just psychic Pictionary images that happen to be in speech bubbles. No that’s not speech either, that’s floating alphabet letters that just happened to be there. No that’s not sp … ok that’s speech, but I’m Grant Frigging Morrison, you never say no to my nonsense.”

  39. Matt C. says:

    Yeah, Morrison really hit it out of the park with that issue by BREAKING THE RULE with the last line of dialogue. Just goes to show how the best writers know why certain rules exist and why they should be broken.

    I agree with Andrew in having a soft spot for the 2001/2002 X-Men comics, though that’s partially because that’s when I started actually reading them full-time. Joe Casey’s run was unremarkable but you got the sense he was trying to build something new like Morrison was. I disagree with some of Morrison’s takes on characters but I can’t disagree that he had a story in mind and wrote it properly.

    Then we got Chuck Austen writing was seemed like terrible fanfiction and it all went to crap.

    Art-wise, I didn’t really like Kordey or Quitely. Kordey’s art was just plan ugly and fat-lined. Quitely’s at least was well-drawn and clean, but I didn’t really like how everyone had beady little eyes and the women were waifishly thin.

  40. Andrew says:

    Kordey’s art is something that has grown on me a lot in the past decade.

    I really hated it at the time but especially in the issues he got a long lead in on (New X-men 128-130) look great and a much better showing of his work than the trainwreck Issues 124-125 which he allegedly drew in about three days.

  41. Flinkman says:

    I am personally LOVING X-Treme X-Men thus far, though I am a massive Dazzler fan so the disproportionate focus doesn’t bother me.

  42. I still really like the Avengers Nuff Said issues. I think the story (part of the Kang invasion story that has Kang dropping a nuclear style bomb on Washington) benefited from the lack of dialogue and was sold well by the art. And the X-Force one was good. But some of the others… Eesh. The Amazing Spider-Man one was bad, I recall.

  43. Kreniigh says:

    Their mission is to fight the ten evil Xaviers. Is there any way we can get Bryan Lee O’Malley in this book?

  44. ZZZ says:

    My recollection of ‘Nuff Said Month is that most of the bad ones (of which there were far too many) basically just turned in a regular issue with no dialogue balloons (The Uncanny X-Men and X-Treme X-Men issues both made literally no sense unless you read the script (which was included in the back of the issue, if memory serves) and even that generally just told you what had happened, not why), while the good ones either figured out a reasonable explanation for the lack of dialogue (the Deadpool issue had him deafened at the beginning of the issue; the Thunderbolts issue had Songbird fighting a villain who absorbed sound) or constructed the story artistically in way that, for want of a better term, the lack of dialogue was a feature and not a bug (if memory serves, both New X-Men and X-Statix put the characters in situations that basically followed dream logic, so it felt right that we were perceiving them differently than usual) and all the good ones slipped in a little dialogue or found workarounds to convey important information, because the better writers realized that gimmicks only work when they serve the story, not when they obstruct it.

  45. Jacob says:

    Poor Chamber.

    He can look at Husk and Angel and think ‘Well, Warren is good looking and loaded…I understand.’

    He can look at Husk and Toad and go ‘Seriously? WTF?!?’

  46. ZZZ says:

    Toad has an eight-foot-long tongue. Chamber has a gaping, glowing chasm for the bottom of his face. I guess we know what’s important to Miss Paige Guthrie.

  47. Jacob says:

    🙂

    Well that and I suppose Toad got to be a well received character in a big budget X-Men film whereas Chamber couldn’t even make the roster of a bad TV Gen X movie.

  48. The original Matt says:

    I never saw that gen x tv movie. Didn’t miss a hidden gem?

  49. Lambnesio says:

    I’m kind of shocked that there are people out that there who prefer Kordey to Quitely. Y’all, that’s nuts. Especially Kordey’s issues of New X-Men, which were incredibly hard to follow. His X-Treme X-Men issues were at least clear, however ugly they were (sorry, just truly not a fan).

    I also really loved the New X-Men ‘Nuff Said issue. I also really liked the X-Treme one at the time, buuuut I was also really young then.

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